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A long long time ago... months ago...happier times.

Manuel Aristedes "Being" Ramirez.

Players in the American League with a higher OPS (.932) this season than Manny:

Milton Bradley

Alex Rodriguez

JD Drew

This is a downish year for Manny. Despite this, he is 4th among qualified AL players in OBP + SLG. 4th among qualified AL players in OBP. Tied for 7th in HRs. We're not just going to pick up a guy like that off of the Blake Street. And speaking of that guy, as he's been mentioned as a trade target: I'm not going to look at just his career road OPS (which is truly mediocre). His road OPS THIS season is .866. His home OPS this season is 6 billion. I'd prefer more balance, myself.

Teixeira? Highest full-season OPS: 2007 between Atlanta and Texas. .963. His best season in OPS is only 31 points higher than Manuel's down year this year. 

Look. Is Manny going to bounce-back to pre-2007 levels? Not sure. But let's get one thing clear. There's not a Manny replacement out there not named Alex Rodriguez or Albert Pujols. Getting Teixeira now and shipping Manny out assumes that Youks would be capable and happy playing LF. Maybe he would. I really don't know. The point is, it's assuming a lot of things. 

This is not to say we can't trade Manny. This is not to say that some of the possible scenarios wouldn't be acceptable. But when you're thinking about us losing/trading/giving up on Manny, you have to keep all of this in mind. 

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It's been a crappy weekend to be a Sox fan. First, we lose 1-0 to Joba and the mysterious head-hunting game vs. Youks. Then we lose 10-3 to Andy Pettitte with Craig Hansen trying his best Joba imitation vs. Alex Rodriguez. Your lone bright spot? That man smiling and pointing at you right above this paragraph. Chad Finn put it best a few days ago. Who can't be extremely happy this weekend, even for a few minutes between being close-gamed/called to death and being pummeled today, with #34 back at the plate for the Sox? 

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You're forgetting a bit number when comparing Manny to Teixeira:

Manny: 36 years old
Teixeira: 28 years old

I’m not saying we should trade for Tex, or get rid of Manny just because. Being might just be my favorite ball player, and his production is just too good. But IF, and that’s a big if, IF he doesn’t stop pulling this crap OR if the FO can’t give him what he want for whatever reason, and if because of that he stops playing for us, we should find someone to replace him. And I think Tex would be better than Holliday or Bay (Bay can’t replace JD Drew, let alone Manny). IF he can’t play, we better find a replacement, because this team needs Manny or at least someone with fair enough numbers.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 27, 2008 6:20 AM EDT   0 recs

MANNY BEING..."GONE" ?!

The following was taken from ROTOWIRE:

On Saturday, during the broadcast of the Sox-Yankees game, Fox color man Tim McCarver reported that Sox GM Theo Epstein has said that if Ramirez would waive his no-trade clause, Boston would try to make a deal and move him.

Spin: Epstein apparently went out of his way to tell McCarver that it was OK to say this on TV, indicating management’s dissatisfaction with Ramirez’s recent behavior.

Right now has to be the most interesting time, not just in baseball but, in all of sports. When every sports fan is constantly deluged with the minutiae of the Brett “I could care less how he spells his name” Favre, ESPN and the rest of sports talk nation refuse to give baseball its due course and talk about it like it should be…TALKED ABOUT!

Not only is the Manny Ramirez situation interesting but the division races are just as compelling. You’ve got 3 really great races brewing here:

AL East – Rays / Sox / Yanks
NL Central – Cubs / Brewers / Cardinals
NL East – Mets / Phillies / Marlins

Every division is truly up for grabs.

In closing I wonder, does Manny have any leverage? Does he have an option of saying: “If I wave my no trade clause, I want to make sure I don’t go to the following team(s) (fill in whatever team(s) you think he would not like to be traded to). Does he want to be traded to a contender only? As mentioned the original post, is there any contender out there that has any “Manny worthy” trade material?

Whooowee! The next 5 days and the rest of the baseball season should be really interesting. But you wouldn’t know it from the likes of ESPN…The Brett Favre network.

"DUDE...I LOVE IT WHEN DAVID WRIGHT GETS PUMPED UP!"

by LOUtheMETSfan on Jul 27, 2008 9:47 AM EDT   0 recs

AL central

is pretty close as well.

Minnesota is just 3 games back of the CWS.

by SoxAcumen on Jul 27, 2008 4:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just a couple comments...

1) if whats holding up a deal for Teixera is Youk being able to play LF, I think this deal is done. Youk seems like a guy who would learn how to catch if the Sox needed him too.

2) IF Manny is really gone, the Sox MUST get Teixera or no one will ever pitch to Big Papi ever again. Plus the Sox need to keep Teixera away from MFY. They are filling spots and the Sox must trump them by keeping Teixera away.

Youk plays LF, Teixera 1b, Lowell 3b…Mike Lowell retires, Youk to 3b, Teixera 1b and the Sox go and get a FA LF in a couple of years.

Things might look bad now, but a deal moving Manny for prospects that can be turned around and sent to Atlanta for Teixera and a deal done with Teixera balances out the AL East/AL again.

Then the Sox can focus on getting another big time arm for 09.

by SoxAcumen on Jul 27, 2008 4:55 PM EDT   0 recs

If we lose Manny

I sure do hope we get Teixeira.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 27, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I couldn't agree more with that

Plus that opens us up to trade Lars Anderson, who could be a centerpiece for young Catcher like Max Ramirez.

by Gnick on Jul 27, 2008 5:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Manny Shenanigans

Carlos Quentin and Jermaine Dye also have higher OPS then Manny. (sorry to be one of those guys) That being said, no matter who we get they aren’t going to be as good as Manny. Try and keep Manny is the first priority.

If we get rid of Manny we are going to need to find a BIG bat to try and fill the hole left behind. From what I understand here are the options. (Please feel free to add more if I missed any)

Mark Teixera
Adam Dunn
Matt Holliday
Milton Bradley

These seem like the only 4 who are capable of putting up close to the OPS Manny does year to year. The other criteria I used is whether a team would be willing to Trade that person. (I am just speculating with Milton Bradley because he is on a losing team and will be a free agent next year).

Alright lets hear the debate on which one is going to be better for our team. A career .902 OPS. The only thing people can say bad about him is his batting average. I don’t care too much what his BA is when is OBP is a career .381. The only other bad thing I can see is he is a lefty so we would have back to back lefties. I am sure we could work around that.

I think Adam Dunn would be a good fit. He already plays left field

by drabidea on Jul 28, 2008 4:52 PM EDT   0 recs

That came out all wrong

That last paragraph is about Adam Dunn

by drabidea on Jul 28, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Milton Bradley can put up a Manny OPS

Holliday is average away from Coors, that leaves Adam Dunn and Mark Teixeira, who are great players (especially Tex), but can’t replace Manny.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 5:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oops

I meant ‘Milton Bradley CAN’T put up a Manny OPS.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 28, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just a word to steer it away from being all about the bat.

Obviously we don’t need a direct replacement for Manny’s OPS, so long as there is a commensurate uptick in the defence. I’m not a massive fan of Holliday, but overall, I suspect there would be little difference once the leather is taken into account. Assuming he can hit in the AL, of course.

And this is of course the advantage of what Teixeira gives you: GG defence (albeit at a relatively unimportant position) and a high OPS. The disadvantage is moving our GG defence and AL-leading first-baseman off his bag. Which would be problematic and is one reason I think is why Big Tex will end up in New York next season.

Adam Dunn would be a terrific like-for-like replacement.

Yup, this post has brought nothing new to the table. But that’s what the internet’s for. It’s a well into which you drop your thoughts, right?

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by britsoxfan on Jul 28, 2008 6:41 PM EDT   0 recs

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