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Master_shake_tiny by Allen Chace on in Open Thread

Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Tim Wakefield 5-5 3.88 1.25 69 42

V.

W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Matt Garza 6-4 3.76 1.21 55 29

And the lineups.

Lineup

Boston Red Sox @ Tampa Bay Rays

07/01/08 7:10 PM EDT

Boston Red Sox Tampa Bay Rays
Jacoby Ellsbury - CF Akinori Iwamura - 2B
Dustin Pedroia - 2B Carl Crawford - LF
J.D. Drew - RF B.J. Upton - CF
Manny Ramirez - DH Carlos Pena - 1B
Mike Lowell - 3B Evan Longoria - 3B
Kevin Youkilis - 1B Cliff Floyd - DH
Brandon Moss - LF Dioner Navarro - C
Alex Cora - SS Eric Hinske - RF
Kevin Cash - C Jason Bartlett - SS

No Lugo. 7-8-9 looks awful. Let's hope Ells can get something going to break out of his slump.

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I'm almost certain

Lugo could’ve made that error.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

And I didn't even see the play.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

As routine a play as you'll ever see

It’s a good thing Cora has a good bat, or he’d be useless.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

*Starts the slow clap for DD*

And wonders: while Cora sucks, is there anyone in MLB that has a good backup MIF?

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or one that even could've been predicted to be good.

Ramon Vasquez, as we all know, doesn’t count.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bring back Pokey!

:-)

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+8,985,036 X 8

Man could he play 2B and/or SS. Amazing. And then he could run a little, which was good too.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One of the best glove men I've ever seen

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks to Alex Cora, the Sox down 1-0

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Manny looks lost these days

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:33 PM EDT   0 recs

Yep. Tito should've given him the night off (Extra Bases) anyway.

He hasn’t been such a strong asset lately that getting Casey’s singles into the lineup instead would’ve been a bad thing.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Right now

Drew, Dusty, and Lowell are the only reliable bats.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Youk isn't reliable?

I guess he’s not having the sort of season it looked like he would earlier, but he still has a solid .312/.380/.540 line.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We're chalk full of reliable guys

Reliable outs, that is.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Jul 1, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Joba and the MFY down 2-0

The Texas Rangers are the first good offensive team Cy Chamberlain has faced as a starter.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:42 PM EDT   0 recs

Moss, Cora, and Cash due up ...

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Moss, Cora, Cash.

Time to cook dinner, clearly.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Or clean dishes ...

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's three NO-HIT innings for NO-HITTING Matt

NO-HITTING Garza. The Sox have had NO HITS through 3 NO-HIT innings against Matt Garza.

No-hitting.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 7:54 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice jinx - it worked.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Crawford grounds into a DP

Is it me or is Wake a better groundball pitcher than Masterson?

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 7:58 PM EDT   0 recs

IF single for Taco Boy

Who goes to 3B on the error.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh Dusty!!

First pitch IF pop up. Way to go!

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:03 PM EDT   0 recs

Not QUITE deep enough.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey there guys

Just got home. Taco is one fast SOB. :)

Also, me hates Cora. No matter how good he can be at nearly all the IF positions, he sucks.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

At this point, he's a great backup 2B defensively.

Range is average to subpar at SS, and he hasn’t played 3B in how long?

Also, good to see you.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he only played 2B and SS so far in this season

But I guess he’s ok at 3B and 1B. Actually, Cora as a 1B is sort of funny with offense in mind. :)

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, we traded unearned runs

The Sox have to have better ABs against Garza.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Drew ties it!

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd have pitched around him to get to Manny.

That feels weird to say.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You can't

(1) It’s too early in the game
(2) If you miss your spot against Cap’n Jack, it’s a 3-1 game.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not saying walk him intentionally.

I’m saying give him nothing good to hit. Which I suppose they didn’t really.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

But Drew didn't bring home a guy on third with less than 2 outs the other day

I guess they thought that if the Cardinals could get away with it, so could they. :)

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Manny needs a break

He’s looking BAD right now.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:05 PM EDT   0 recs

WP leads to a run

Down by one again …

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT   0 recs

ugh.

Kind of an ugly game when you get down to it.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Oh shit

Dioner, you suck.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:15 PM EDT   0 recs

He is hitting better than both of our catchers combined.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know

But I don’t like him. That fight he had with Garza earlier was sort of Gomes-esque.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Word on the street was that

Garza kind of needed to be “told”.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sit down, Hinske

I read that article in the site of SI, about knuckleballers, and they said Wake could even pitch until he’s 50 or so. I guess he couldn’t, but if such thing happens, I’m all in for it. He’s not the best pitcher ever, and sometimes he sucks, but I got a weakness for the knuckler.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Incorrect.

He is the best pitcher ever.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Think about how good Wake would be with a great FB

Nobody would be able to touch his stuff. Not that I’m not cool with the ‘one’ he has, but he would be even better.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think he'd be the same guy with a great FB

They’d probably have tried to make him develop a good curve or slider to go with it.

Just doesn’t work for me.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

While you're right

The difference in speed of between a 90 MPH FB and a 60 MPH knuckler sounds very sexy and unhittable

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey. Oswalt kind of does that.

90+ on his FB, and mid-high 60s with his off-speed stuff.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wake knuckler is better than Oswalt curve, me thinks

But Oswalt is a really great pitcher.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I really like Wake

I don’t get Sox fans that don’t. He is very valuable, giving the team lots of innings and a very low cost. He could get much more on the open market.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was close

Youk just missed one

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

I have a feeling

We’re going to need him to build a time machine and turn that one into a not-missed one.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Get on base, Moss

I beg you, otherwise Cora will lead off the next inning.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Moss answers prayers.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ttwo-out single for Moss

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm calling it

Cora goes yard here! :-)

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:24 PM EDT   0 recs

By yard, I mean grounding out to SS

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is Garza going to do it?!

Nah, after 3 balls Cora sees one strike, and then coras one to the SS.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

At least he didn't '07 Drew-it to the 2B.

Those got OLD.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Articles like this

Are so useless

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:28 PM EDT   0 recs

Theo would not make the same mistake again

Not that ANYONE could be as bad as that-canadian-dude-who-can-not-be-named, however.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why mention those players?

Theo won’t any of them (most are worse than the pitchers they’d be replacing).

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The Scott Schoenweis thing

Was. Hold on. My brain almost exploded.

Also: Absolutely not.

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by Allen Chace on Jul 1, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

evening all

This could be a big inning for the Sox

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT   0 recs

I hope so

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

so much for that

Manny needs some time off…

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Almost a great play by Bartlett

Too bad the throw went into the dugout. Ellsbury would have been on third.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:37 PM EDT   0 recs

Two on for Dizzle

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Ummm

I was just about to check the scoreboard to see how the Rays ( DUH!!) & MFY are doing… it’s a habit now I guess

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 1, 2008 8:40 PM EDT   0 recs

That was ugly

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:45 PM EDT   0 recs

MFY down 2-1

Cy Chamberlain done after 4 innings. His line: 4 IP 5 H 2 ER 4 BB 6 K. Wow, a 2.25 WHIP—very impressive.

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 8:52 PM EDT   0 recs

he’s still gonna win the cy young, rookie of the year. a gold glove & a silver slugger award

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We're not going to score many runs in this series, are we?

My head nearly exploded in this last inning.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 8:54 PM EDT   0 recs

no pessimism allowed- the sox will score runs…

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Jul 1, 2008 8:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Good news

Garza is nearly done.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 9:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Bad news

Moss, Cora and Cash up next.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Another hit for Moss

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by Drugs Delaney on Jul 1, 2008 9:03 PM EDT   0 recs

He does a great job in not letting Cora lead off the following inning

And… Cora sucks. He does. Plain and simple. I don’t wanna see his sorry ass next season, I really don’t. We could find another IF, one that could do anything near good hitting.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jul 1, 2008 9:06 PM EDT