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Who can fill Papi's shoes?

By now you've all heard the news. David Ortiz is out for at least 2-3 weeks, and possibly much longer (if they have to operate), with a serious wrist injury. While the hope is that he'll be able to recover within the month, the team should start considering their options to replace his production now.

Ortiz was putting up a line of .252 / .354 / .486. With his average and OBP down, most of Ortiz's value came from his power, with 10 2B and 13 HR. Even his isolated power numbers were down from last year (.233 to .289). Ortiz was still hitting well in clutch situations, batting .323 with 2 outs and runners in scoring position. The offense will suffer in his absence.

So I present the options to sub for Ortiz, starting with the most controversial.

  "The name's Bonds. Barry Bonds... I'll have the cocktail. Injected, not stirred."

Bonds makes the best sense from a baseball perspective. His numbers last year were insanely good: .276 / .480 / .565, with 28 HR. Even if we adjust for playing in the National League, being the only dangerous hitter in the Giants lineup (and thus getting more BBs), and allow some decline for age, Bonds' superhuman OBP should still translate well to the AL. He has a great career line against the AL in interleague play: .310 / .501 / .653. This has held up in recent years as well; for example, in 2007 he hit .372 / .550 / .605 in interleague play. So there's no reason to expect Bonds to come to Boston and stop hitting, walking and slugging.

At this stage, Bonds is the definition of an undervalued player. Teams in need of a slugger, from Oakland to Seattle, have shunned him. His legal troubles and PR / clubhouse issues obscure Bond's talent, and allow Boston to gain a competitive advantage over the rest of the league. Best of all, once Ortiz is ready the team could DFA Bonds (to thunderous applause). Unfortunately, Bonds would need a few weeks to prep for the majors, so the team would have to move quickly to get him.

Other External Options:

Ken Griffey Jr.: The Reds might trade him if it became clear they were out of contention. He is probably the 2nd best external option. He shouldn't cost as much in trade as a younger slugger. There'd be no PR hit, and watching him chase 600 would be fun. He's also six years younger than Bonds.

Sammy Sosa: His average and OBP were quite low last year (.252 and .311, respectively), though he showed decent power with 21 HR. Since he is unsigned, all he would cost the team is money.

Trade for a young slugger, ex. Jason Bay / Adam Dunn / Garret Atkins / Matt Holliday / Mark Teixeira: Any one of these players would command a fortune in prospects and major league players (think Pedroia, Buchholz), more so than Griffey. Other teams know they can extort the Sox since Ortiz is injured, so a trade would probably end up too one-sided.

Internal Options:

Coco Crisp: If the Sox DH Manny, as they did Tuesday night, then Coco basically becomes Papi's replacement. Coco's .291 OBP and nonexistent power are unacceptable in any lineup, let alone one without Ortiz. While the OF defense gets better with Ells/Crisp/Drew, I doubt this will compensate for Crisp's lack of offense.

Chris Carter (called up): Carter, 25, has hit very well in every stage of his minor league career. He seems to me like the best internal candidate to replace Ortiz. His line at Pawtucket is .310 / .366 / .526, with 10 HR.

Jeff Bailey (sent down): Bailey is having an even better season at Pawtucket than Carter, with a .315 / .407 / .668 line and 17 HR. However, Bailey is 29, and has been in the minors for almost a decade. It's unlikely the Sox have high expectations for him, considering how little major league play he's gotten in his four years with the team's affiliates.

Brandon Moss (in AAA): Moss is recovering from his May appendectomy, but could be called up soon. His numbers at AAA: .309 / .360 / .559, with 6 HR. His OF defense is good, and he could spell Drew and Manny at the corners.

Sean Casey: Unlike Coco, Casey at least has the ability to hit for average and get on base consistently (.367 career OBP). He doesn't hit for power, unlike Moss, Bailey, or Carter,  but we know he won't struggle  to hit major league pitching.

Poll
If Ortiz is out for longer than a month, how should the Sox replace him in the lineup?
Sign Barry Bonds
27 votes
Sign Sammy Sosa
5 votes
Trade for a slugger in his prime like Bay or Holliday
5 votes
Trade for Ken Griffey Jr
19 votes
DH Manny and put Coco in CF, Ellsbury in LF
47 votes
DH Chris Carter
23 votes
DH Jeff Bailey
0 votes
Have Brandon Moss and JD Drew alternate at DH
18 votes
Have Sean Casey, Youk, and Lowell alternate at DH
16 votes

160 votes | Poll has closed

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If Ortiz is out for the season

Sign Barry Bonds. He would only cost us money, and if he can’t play well enough (which I doubt) we would have only wasted money. As you said, if we try and trade for a power hitter with Ortiz out other teams would want our entire farm system. Even with all the stuff Beckett and Lowell gave us last season, I’m not over giving up that guy who is now the best SS in the MLB. Trades can be some fuckers.

I think I’m alone here, but if we’re going to trade any of our top young players, I’d rather trade Pedroia first. Not Buch, not Ells, not Lester. I think Lowrie can be good playing 2B, so we can afford to lose Pedroia in a trade. I really don’t want to trade him, but if we’re going to trade any young guys for a top hitter (Teixeira or Jay Bruce… Ok, I’m kidding), I’d rather let Pedroia go than let Buch go.

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by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 4, 2008 12:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't sign Bonds

Barry Bonds of 2008 isn’t the same Barry Bond of 2004 or 2001. He is having trouble hitting from inside pitches in 2007, he can only be a DH and the biggest drawback is that he will cost a huge amount of money better spent on something else. He reminds me when the Sox got Jack Clark in the late 80s. Might as well sign Jose Canseco, because his aura like Bonds is much more powerful the reality as everyday players.

Yes, Bonds was an absolutely incredible player, on steroids or not, but getting Bonds would be a huge distraction on the field and in the clubhouse.

by superferret on Jun 4, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OT

But in his last 4 games Lowrie has 9 hits, including 2 2B’s. Isn’t about the time we call him up again? I really think the Sox should call Lowrie, and give him, say, 3 games in a row starting at SS (or at least starting somewhere) and see how he does. That kid can be useful. At the very least, at this point, he would be an improvement over Cora (who wouldn’t?).

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 4, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Stay Internal

With the 9 options you suggested. 5 of them are internal. While you can count young slugger as multiple options, for instance count Bay as one and Holliday as another. The point I make is we have many internal solutions already available with no risk. If we bring up Chris Carter and he doesn’t slam the ball this time around, so what, try Brandon Moss instead. It would be a rash decision at this stage to go and get someone. We are either going to be taking a risk (Bonds, Sosa) or we are going to have to give up a substantial amount of talent (Holliday, Bay).

If Theo decides to sign any of the before mentioned athletes, I hope it is with plans to have them somewhere in the system other then for “Ortiz’s injury hole”. I am not against signing Holliday or Bay, both of which I believe will be great hitters and would contribute to the team. However, signing them for the rest of the year just to give us another bat in the lineup is just going to screw us over in the long term.

I have trust in Theo weighing out all of the possible options and risks attached to them. He will only sign a young slugger if we get a decent deal. I don’t think he will sign a Bonds or Griffey unless he has the intentions of signing them next year. Theo and the Red Sox have alot of faith in our young kids to step up and fill the missing holes. Can you really argue with him? Have we forgotten about last year’s Rookie of the Year? How about the two no hitters? What about our closer? How about this year’s future rookie of the year? (knock on wood, sorry Taco)

Every young prospect (with the arguable exception of Hansen) has excelled when brought into the Bigs. Theo, Terry, and the FO have trust in whoever they bring up from the minors, so do I.

I say bring up Carter or Moss. I am fine with either because if one doesn’t work out we can always bring up the other.

by drabidea on Jun 4, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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People have voted for Barry “steroid” Bonds. I am sorry but these people just don’t get it. That is one of the worst ideas they could have.

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by E5 on Jun 4, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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