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Schilling to have season-ending surgery

Per Extra Bases, Curt Schilling has decided to operate on his right shoulder, meaning he is done for the season. The Sox had hoped he could rehab it without surgery, but apparently that was not possible. If Schil tries a comeback after the surgery, the earliest he could contribute to a major league team would be in late 2009.

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BOSTON—Curt Schilling said Friday he’s out for the season, and his career might be over, too.

The 41-year-old Boston Red Sox right-hander said Friday on radio station WEEI-AM he will have shoulder surgery next week.

“My season is over and there is a pretty decent chance I have thrown my last pitch forever,” he said.

Schilling’s physician, Dr. Craig Morgan, confirmed to The Associated Press the surgery will be done Monday in Wilmington, Del.

“If you use a scale of 1-10 and 10 is pitching in the big leagues, I’m at about 3 right now,” Schilling said. “I’m going in to make it not hurt anymore.”

Schilling was drafted by the Red Sox in the second round in 1986, but was traded with Brady Anderson to the Orioles for Mike Boddicker before the had a chance to make the major league club. Ironically, he debuted against the Red Sox in 1988, going seven innings with a line of 6 H, 2 SO, 5 BB, 3 ER. Schilling finishes his career – if it is finished – with 216 wins, 83 complete games, 20 shut outs, 3116 strikeouts, a 3.46 ERA, and a career WHIP of 1.137. He was also one Jason Varitek shake-off away from a no-hitter.

Obviously, Schilling’s playoff performance during his career was even better, going 11-2 with 4 complete games, 120 strikeouts, an ERA of 2.23 and a WHIP of approximately 0.97. His final game was – of course – against the Colorado Rockies in the 2007 World Series, a game he won, going 5-and-a-third with a line of 4 H, 4 SO, 2 BB, 1 ER.

Schilling played for the Orioles, the Astros, the Phillies, the Diamondbacks, and the Sox. He was a six-time All-Star, and competed in 4 World Series, losing one to Toronto with the Phillies, and beating New York, St. Louis and Colorado, with the Diamonbacks and the Red Sox. To my knowledge, Schilling was regarded as one of the most thoroughly prepared pitchers in the game, and cemented his reputation as a “warrior” with is performances in the 2004 playoffs, pitching effectively against the Yankees in Game 6 and the Cardinals with a sutured tendon.

I wasn’t abundantly confident that we would be seeing Schilling take the hill again when the news came out that he had shoulder issues this spring. I don’t think – from a run-prevention standpoint – this really hurts the Sox, but I will miss seeing him on the mound. I get the sense that he and I would disagree on a great deal about non-baseball related topics, but he seems to say what he thinks, and to often – although not always – admit when he thinks he’s wrong. Not all athletes (and certainly not all journalists) can claim to do as much. He was an All-Star pitcher who played even bigger than he was when it mattered, and he sacrificed not only his health and comfort, but a year of his career to make the Red Sox World Series Champions. While Yankees’ fans no longer need to worry about pissing themselves at the thought of facing him in the playoffs, I – for one – will miss Curt Schilling.

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 20, 2008 11:57 AM EDT reply actions  

The Big Schill

I’ll miss him too. He seems like a great guy. Lots of people really hate him, but lots of people are more often than not wrong.

Now, when will Timlin retire?

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions  

They'll need to pry the baseball from his cold, dead hand...

I, for one, cannot wait…

(j/k – I have no animosity for Timlin, if he’s not pitching)

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 20, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have nothing against Timlin, in fact I really like the guy

But it’s time for him to go.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schil owes us nothing

I hope that if he tries a comeback, he doesn’t do anything stupid

Walking off the mound in the World Series is a hell of a way to go

Sully

by SullyBaseball on Jun 20, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Sad Day in Boston

If he came back, we could have traded away Colon for prospects.

by sox-inda-south on Jun 20, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

We still can, I guess

We have Beckett, Dice-K, Lester and Wake as locks in the rotation. Then if Buch starts dominating again in AAA, we have Buch. There’s also Masterson, who only gave us good starts so far. I wouldn’t trade Colon, because then if anyone gets injured we’re fucked. But that wouldn’t be too bad either, because his value won’t get higher than it is right now.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

[H]is value won’t get higher than it is right now

I think this fairly begs the question: How many prospects can you get for Colon? My guess, he’s more valuable as insurance and potentially a supplemental draft pick, when the Brewers pick him up to team with Gagne and Hoolian.

I know he’s probably interested in other stuff at the moment, but could you see Schilling as a coach?

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 20, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schilling as a coach?

I can’t really see that. I can see Timlin more as coach, for some reason I can’t explain.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure...

...MLB clubs need a coach to help relief pitchers hemorrhage runs and waste quality starts.

(Yikes! Maybe I need to lay off Timlin…)

Upon reflection, I think maybe you’re right. Schilling has the prep and the pitching know-how going for him, but on the flip-side I’m not sure he’d get along well with pitchers who didn’t approach the game like he did.

Jason Varitek, on the other hand… That’s a guy I want as my pitching coach (after John Farrell becomes an MLB manager somewhere and ‘Tek retires, of course)

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 20, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Jason Varitek as a coach

Makes perfect sense, and I really think it will happen. And about Schilling, yep, I don’t think he would get along with the pitchers. And he’s sort of crazy as well.

It's the same old story. Boy finds girl, boy loses girl, girl finds boy, boy forgets girl, boy remembers girl, girls dies in a tragic blimp accident over the Orange Bowl on New Year's Day.

by MerryGoByeBye on Jun 20, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think Schil is too interested in his video games to be an MLB coach, although he has the mind, dedication, and work-ethic for it.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Jun 23, 2008 12:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

You don't need to be a good player

to be a good coach / manager. Terry Francona’s career batting line: .274 / .300 / .351. Granted, Tito was an excellent pitcher – his career ERA is 0.00 (1 inning pitched, with a K). John Farrell has some good years as a pitcher, but was by no means a star (his ERA+ exceeded 100 in only three of his eight seasons).

by 0157H7 on Jun 21, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would actually say

That perhaps some of the best coaches/managers aren’t great players. John Farrell really had to work at pitching well; not a ton of natural talent. In the same vein, Brian Bannister (of that ballclub in Kansas City) might be a good choice for a pitching or bullpen coach down the road. Mediocre stuff, but he thinks A LOT about pitching.

Of course, they’re not mutually exclusive, thinking about the game and being talented. I don’t think his personality fits for it, exactly, but Schilling would have the credentials, the thought process, and the preparation (think of all those huge notebooks he has filled out on hitters) process to get the job done.

Varitek might be the one to eventually take over for Tito, if things with he and the club stay amicable.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Jun 21, 2008 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Top 3 coaches on the Red Sox team right now: Jason Varitek, Curt Schilling and Alex Cora.

Varitek is a no-brainer. Schill, I think, would be a great coach because he has such amazing work ethic. Cora has always been heralded as one of the smartest players in baseball—he, no doubt, will be employed by the MLB after his playing days.

by Randy Booth on Jun 23, 2008 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

How happy would I be...

... to one day watch Jason Varitek as the Red Sox manager or pitching coach?

Rock me, sexy Jesus...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Jun 23, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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