Game thread: Red Sox @ Twins - 9 May 2008
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 8:42 PM EDT
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Lester vs some dude named, I swear I am not making this up, Boof Bonser
Lester already doing a bang-up job in the 1st inning
Red Sox line-up:
Ellsbury, CF, .287
Pedrioa, 2B, .299
Ortiz, DH, .244[!]
Ramirez, LF, .313
Lowell, 3B, .260
Youkilis, 1B, .313
Drew, RF, .277
Varitek, C, .253
Lugo, SS, .286
Twins line-up:
Gomez, CF, .276
Harris, 2B, .255
Mauer, C, .352
Morneau, 1B, .268
Cuddyer, RF, .286
Kubel, DH, .236
Young, LF, .264
Tolbert, 3B, .295
Everett, SS, .195
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The Twins line-up
God, it’s just bad.
Lugo with a RBI so far. Baseball is weird…
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was a groundout RBI though.
Had anyone been on 1B, it would’ve been a DP. Or at least that’s my analysis of the Gamecast.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on May 9, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But when there are 2 men at scoring position, and nobody at first, I expect my Lugo to strikeout. :)
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo's rbi was his TYPICAL ground ball
which would be an easy out and maybe a dp if someone was on first! He just got situationally lucky. He does not belong on this team!
by NG on May 9, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you believe Lugo just made *another* error?
Yes, actually.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trade him, already, Theo!
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trade him for what?
Who would want him? Why would anyone else want him?
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
trade for Eric Gagne
he can’t be any worse as a shortstop than Lugo.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
You’re right. And that’s kind of sad. Lugo can’t hit for shit, and he is a crappy infielder. What the hell is he doing on the line-up?
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, though...
there’s gotta be some small market National League team that would take him
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just can't think of any team in the NL that are this desperate for a SS
I guess that to trade Lugo, we’d have to put other players in the deal.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weren't the Rockies rumored to be interested in...
Tavarez? Toss in Lugo.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's starting at 2B for them?
I just can’t remember now. Can Lugo play 2B? But if they are stupid enough to want Tavarez, maybe they’d send Tulo for us. :)
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fielding error by Lugo
What? His he trying to set a record or something?
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His he
Is actually Is he. I get confused when pissed off… :)
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the error leads to runs
Again. Again!
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LUGO DOES NOT BELONG ON THIS TEAM!
He is such a glaring weak link that the entire championship plan in place for the Sox may well be jeopardized by this one poor player out of his league on this team!
by NG on May 9, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lester throws enough pitches already
He doesn’t need Lugo’s help to throw more.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the good news...
Lester’s ERA won’t get ding’d by those runs.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bad news...
The Sox record will.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lugo already with an error, Lester with 56 pitches, we're down by 2
Sweet lord…
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and all against the fracking Twins!
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sliding into first base
Should be illegal.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Lugo go with the K
or the traditional GIDP?
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost a DP
But just one out this time. It’s a miracle!
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate him...
...sooooooooo much
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me about it
His picture at Gameday is mocking me.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though he does steal
We should just use him as PR.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bench infielder. VERY bench
BTW, how’s Cora’s rehab going?
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He went 1-4 today at Pawtucket
and 2-4 yesterday. Should be ready early next week.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my Lugo
Almost a DP there. Should have been a DP too…
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nah the shortstop had to range too far left
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't encourage him!
(kidding)
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rebound
Ortiz in the neighborhood of .250
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
9 game hit streak
Batting in the low .400s over the streak. Pretty good stuff.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ho hum...
Dice-BB tomorrow, right? I can’t find probable pitcher schedule for some reason.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Remember James Shields?
Just threw a 92-pitch CG shutout against the Angels. 8 strikeouts, no walks. 1 hit.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweet walk-off homer
by Longoria against Speier to win
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aren't you glad...
...you don’t cheer for the Mariners?
SEATTLE (AP)—Seattle slugger Richie Sexson was suspended for six games and fined Friday by Major League Baseball after charging the mound and throwing his helmet at a Texas pitcher [Kason “I was once traded for Gagne” Gabbard] the previous night.
I don’t see what the big deal is. It’s not like Sexson has hit anything recently.
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't Boof...
Michael J. Fox’s girlfriend in “Teen Wolf?”
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's Go Manny
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean 498?
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is the Twins bullpen as of today?
Because Boof has already threw over 90 pitches (more than Lester!).
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The DOUBLE MAN
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mikey!
Brings us within 1 run, with 2 in scoring position, none out.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lowell doubles in 2 runs!
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Youk-on Cornelius with another RBI!
oh, and hey, look at that: its tied!
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that ended as quickly as it started
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ells with yet another steal
Though the team streak was ended when Drew was caught before.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lester pulled for Aaaaaardsma
Lester’s line: 5.1 IP, 8H, 3ER, 1BB, 2K, all on 94 pitches
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not bad
Well, 8 hits are still a shitload of hits. But just a BB makes me hopeful…
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did Young try to go home from first?
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday says so
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again with the slide into first
Why? They’re not trying to tag you, they’re trying to step on the bag.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oki in already?
Does this mean we’ll see Hansen?
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sure do
But not in a road 1-run game. :)
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not.
Oki only threw 5 or 6 pitches.
by 0157H7 on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 run game
You may just wanna take Lugo out now.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What happens to Paps
When he has to face the 7-8-9 batters of the other team’s line-up working on a 1 run lead?
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Save situations
Love ‘em and hate ‘em at the same time.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Paps
Working yourself into trouble again…
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shit man...
1-2 count. 1-2 count. 1-2 count. Facing MIKE LAMB. 1-2 count. I cannot believe this.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you listen carefully...
you can hear the ghost of Bob Stanley
twice on the final strike, and he couldn’t close the door.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
by DJDP23 on May 9, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bloops tonight
Bloops in Detroit. But the walk to Gomez was inexcusable.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe this
Really. The only guy I wouldn’t guess this shit coming from. We should have let Oki get the save.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No it definitely should have been Paps
Oki had already pitched 2 innings for one thing. More importantly though, Paps is the closer and he gets the majority of saves. I don’t know what’s going on with him but he didn’t look as fired up as he usually does.
by soxaholic on May 9, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Letting Oki close the game
I know it would never happen, but, man… Paps is one of my favorite pitchers ever, and seeing him lose 2 games in a row hurts me more than losing these 2 games.
And if we had won this, we would be the best team in the MLB (I guess).
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I shouldn't be worried...
So someone tell me when I should be, okay?
Can we blame this on Lugo somehow?
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 9, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, we can
His error led to 2 runs by the Twins. And he was his usual self batting.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 9, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We lost this game because of
very weak hitting by the bottom 3 in the lineup, and we allowed the Twins to steal too easily. Lugo is striking out and gounding out too much and Veritek is popping up too much. Then we allowed the Twins to steal third base (and second too) unchallenged. That put too much Pressure on Paps to have to strike out the side. Why didn’t we challenge that third base steal attempt??
by NG on May 9, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Papelbon has been off in both of the last two save opportunities. He deserves a share of the responsibility.
by 0157H7 on May 10, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
” ... too much pressure on Paps ..” Are you crazy? He is an elite closer with a 1-run lead, a situation an elite closer should be able to handle. He didn’t. That’s the entire problem tonight. We can argue about Lugo’s error that led to two runs. Manny’s gaffe that put a runner on second who later scored, or Ellsbury’s ill-advised throw to third that put Mauer in scoring position in the first. Without those four runs the Sox would have won—right? However, when Paps fails to protect a 1-run lead against the 7th, 8th, and 9th hitter of an average to below-average offensive team, the blame is his. End of story.
As for the “weak” bottom third of the line-up, they drove in 2 runs and were on-base 5 times. The top of the order drove in none and was on base 7 times. Offensively, the biggest problem is Manny right now. He is hitting .219 AVG in 8 games in May. He was 1 for 5 and struck out 3 times.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on May 10, 2008 2:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ground balls for outs
that could be double play balls in other circumstances are hardly strong endorsements for RBI skills, and that is what Veritek and Lugo had! In Lugo’s case, it is all he ever has! Also, what about that third base steal that Veritek did not challenge. I do not believe Veritek had a very good night, IMO!
I guess there was plenty of blame to go around on this one. I agree that Manny looks worn out all of a sudden and Papelbon as well. I wonder why? Maybe a transfusion from the superhuman Youkilis would help??
by NG on May 10, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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