OT: Sox @ Tigers, Game Dos. 5/6/08, 7:05 EDT
by Allen Chace on May 6, 2008 6:03 PM EDT
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- For those into that sort of thing (me included), the Celts tip-off against the Cavs @ 8 EDT.
- Via Extra Bases, Alex Cora and Sean Casey will begin rehab assignments later this week. (Cora starts tomorrow, Casey on Thursday) If both are ready by Saturday, expect Craig Hansen and Jed Lowrie to head back to Pawtucket.
- The Rockies need a starter, and Julian Tavarez is on their list of options. We'll see.
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First!
Wake with the 9 pitch start to Granderson. Is it possible for a Sox starter to throw 75 pitches in one inning?
1-2-4 inning
Not bad …
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no complaints
Yesterday’s game was brutal to watch. 10 walks. But hey if we are only giving up 3 runs a game, I suppose I can’t complain.
Evening All
Go Sox!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Hello
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions
C'mon
Now he is only a single, triple, and homer away from the cycle
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions
With runners on 2nd and 3rd
It’d take skill …
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
NO
Lugo’s signature double play hit is a grounder to second or short. He is too fast for hitting into a triple play, but this is not to give him any positive feedback. He is a master at chocking in the clutch by either sriking out usually by a called third strike, or even more likely to hit into a double play. I fear he will cripple this team someday when it most counts, and nobody in Sox management seems to be willing to do anything about him.
by NG on May 6, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
RBI ground out for Crisp
I’ll take it … 3-0, Sox.
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not bad
That’s a decent way to start. I’ll be very happy if our middle relief doesn’t need to used today. Its just been painful to watch lately.
5-pitch 2nd for Wake
Let’s knock Robertson out now …
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other than Verlander
Detroit is really struggling on the hill. Their team ERA is just shocking. I heard they actually have a higher payroll then we do also, is that right?
I reckon they’ve gone the wrong way around in building this team. They are like the Yankees now, score 900+ runs but can’t win it all as they don’t have enough quality arms to get it done when its really needed.
Verlander hasn't been too good so far
1-6 6.28 ERA
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Excuse me ...
Verlander is 1-5.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
He was sitting fastball and got the curve
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions
how is it possible
That I guy who throws a pitch 80% of time and is never quite sure where it is going can actually throw more strikes then the guy with the repetroire of about 16 different pitches and deliveries?
Cash half way to the cycle ...
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone think he might be at least semi for real with this hitting thing?
Like, maybe they were able to refine his approach in ST?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
I don't know
I’m just happy Beer Belly is gone.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
coco
moving the runners around. Well at least its something productive. He’s making outs, but at least were gettting something in return. Geez do I sound like Joe Morgan?
Not sure if the sac was the "call" or not, or if it was a botched attempt at a bunt single...
But I don’t like it in that situation. The trail runner (Cash) STILL needs a 2B to score from 2b.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
bugger...
runners left on 2nd and 3rd again. That’s tough. In reality that’s quite easily 4 runs wasted.
Evening people
Just got home… Did I miss much?
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
Rockies want Tavarez
While they’re at it, won’t they take Lugo?
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maybe
they’ll take every middle reliever we have and Lugo and we will be kind enough to take that young, struggling ss they currently have.
That would be great
Can’t we send someone out to tell their GM something like “Tulo sucks anyway; Why would you want him?”? Maybe they’ll buy it. :)
The picture of Tulowitzki and Pedroia as our middle infielders is just wonderful.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd go for that.
Hey, yeah, Tulo has no more potential, already had a career year, yada, yada. Then we bamboozle them on the merits of a Tavarez, Corry, Delcarmen trifecta. AND for a bonus, we’ll throw in Lugo. Yep, that works for me.
Maybe they'll be so thrilled
That they might put Matt Holliday in as well just for our trouble. :)
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Eh. We're keeping MDC, despite the crapfest
he’s treated us to thusfar.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
No Jeter Lovin' Fanatics Allowed
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Tulowitzki ...
= Jeter Lovin’ Fanatic
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
I had forgotten about that. Plus, he's injured right now.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Cleveland just scored 2
They’re up on the MFY 2-1
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He is looking good so far ...
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice play by Lugo
13 in a row retired by Wake
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That's Kevin "Wheels" Cash to you.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Coco
Already with Ground Out, Sac Bunt and Strikeout. Maybe now he’ll hit into a DP just for his personal cycle.
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Called it
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, at least we'll start the next inning with our lineup turned over
with our leadoff, wait, no, you’re telling me Coco was leading off tonight? WTF? #2 hitter to start things off.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Coco as our leadoff guy
That’s like having Lugo as our cleanup hitter. I wonder why they keep trying that. Coco has great speed and all, but that won’t do him much because he just can’t get in well enough.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions
It's because Ellsbury is the leadoff hitter
Because Coco is playing for Ellsbury, he’s going to hit in his slot. That’s the only explanation I have for it.
(Basing this on observations of the Brewers; Ned Yost did this with the backup center fielders when Mike Cameron was suspended. He also does this on occasion when Craig Counsell replaces bits of the infield; the bit depends on the day.)
a 9-pitch inning.
If the pitching style wouldn’t screw them up so badly, I’d make Lester and Daisuke watch tape of this start from Wake on a continuous loop for the next few days, no breaks.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Granderson Ks
16 in a row retired by Wake.
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Wake is great tonight
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
I love Wake
and I hate to put the mockers on him, but with Wake things can turn sour pretty fast. I’d love to just have another couple of runs…
You are, how do I say, ah yes, not wrong about this.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Don't worry
Robertson has already threw over 100 pitches. Their bullpen will be coming in soon enough. :)
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Robertson should have been knocked out in the 4th
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Silly Robertson ...
Tried to sneak a 3-2 fastball on the inside corner …
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
PAPI!!!
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Freddy Dolsi?
Who the F is him? I just can’t remember ever seeing him…
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Manny greets him properly
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
He's my fav Tiger now!!!
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Glad they got a less-posed shot of "Being" here.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
my favourite
homer is that dead centre shot. Manny hits quite a few of those each year and they are just bloody fantastic to see.
Have a feeling/hope that JD Drew is going to be
properly excited to see a non-LHP on the mound.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Or, go down looking. One or the other.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
There's the hat trick!
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You can. Though I'm not sure that's his/if he even has a problem.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Well..
the obvious response here is “the problem is his high level of suckitude at times” but I must say that salami he hit in the playoffs last year was quite memorable.
Eh. He's at 280 with a high OBP, and showing no signs of extended slumpage.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Well sure.
But, hey. If you still want to watch the guy we thought we were getting in Drew, just tune in to any ol’ Cubs game. He plays RF too.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
But at least we're not stuck with the guy
Who plays LF for them.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Dang straight.
No thank you. I prefer the “patience” of Coco and Lugo.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Wake's going to have to lock it down
if he wants to send away for one of Roy Halladay’s famous “Bullpens are for p*ssies” t-shirts.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
85 pitches, and a one-hitter
This is the best he looked for a long time.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Wake still hitting 73 MPH on his fastball in the 8th
Wow!
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throwing at his pace
I reckon he could quite easily throw 125 pitches in a game. But then again he’s an old guy like me so who knows.
125 pitches in a game?
Pffffffffft; that is nothing Lester & Dice K can do that in 5 innings or less…
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
True
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap
There goes the one-hitter…
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
the one-hitter was nice
I’m just happy that an outstanding pitching performance is getting run support behind it.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
That's the best
We got our bats back, but our pitchers are still dominating. We’re just making other teams fans regret on making lists on how to beat the Sox.
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
98 pitches..
8 innings, 2 hits, NO walks(hey Lester and Dice-K) , let me say this again NO WALKS.
Do you bring him in for the ninth?
If he doesn't feel good
Yes, J-Lo hasn’t always been great for us against LHHs, but Granderson has yet to figure most any LHP out, so J-Lo then Aardsma, maybe.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
98 pitches and just a inning to go
Go for the shutout!
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old man river has the ball dancing like barysjnikov tonight.
a workng knuckler is a joy to watch.
We've got TWO Jews on this team, Mel! -- Denis Leary
Well, well, well
Thanks for dropping in, Swe. Long time, no hear …
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
mike timlin is not superawesome
the constraints of a non-college life have severely limited my late nights lately :)
also, wtf terry? not letting the man go for the cg-sho was weak.
We've got TWO Jews on this team, Mel! -- Denis Leary
Oh god, please no...
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Allan Wood (Joy of Sox) has the best nickname for Timlin.
“White Flag”.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Hahaha...
Very true…
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by MerryGoByeBye on May 6, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions
no other viable choices?
Mayday Malone not available to work out of the bullpen?
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
Nope
Timlin on
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Here we go
Please Timlin please-
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
Leadoff single
Oh god…
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Can they still...
Calculate his WHIP without using exponents?
by nuthinboutnuthin on May 6, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
don't get me wrong
I like Timlin and in the past he’d done great things for this squad. But in the immortal words of Lou Reed, “stick a fork in him, he’s done”
Whew. Clutch GIDP from Polanco.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Anyone watching? What's ol' Timlin hitting on the gun?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
I didn't check
But he was definitely throwing harder than Wake …
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Timlin ERA just got lower
11.05. Cy Young stuff there…
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In the books.
And dangit if you didn’t try to make it more difficult than it needed to be, Tito.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Timlin needs work
Why not throw him with a 5-run lead?
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Wake could've finished it out.
2008-era Timlin seems capable of making 5-run leads seem like nailbiting distance.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
It's a long season
The Sox need their pen to step up. Aside from Paps, no one has been all that good.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Oki has.
1.00 WHIP, 13 Ks in 14 IP.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Oki has been a nightmare with inherited runners
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I suppose that's true.
But it also seems like he’s a lot of times being brought in with inherited runners. No one else seems to be getting a shot in those situations, and I doubt the Sox are doing it with this notion in mind, but he’s being set up to fail.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Also, if we're going to use tonight's 9th to try to help someone work out their issues
why not MDC? He at least still has a chance of being a bona-fide setup man for this team.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Wow. I'm getting a little overzealous with this, I suppose.
Timlin probably could use the work, I just think it’d be nice to save that for a game that’s a little more of a blowout.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
A 5-run lead in the 9th is pretty big
Timlin hadn’t been in a game since May 1st.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You're right.
But my emotional response to him coming in was “5 runs is not enough.”
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Or, perhaps the more popular:
“Hide your starters. No lead if safe.”
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Timlin makes me nervous too
Hopefully, with more work, he’ll settle in. I’m not ready to throw him or MDC under the bus the first week in May. But those guys have to step up—or we’ll see the Sox’ depth real soon.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Good Night All
I hope Timlin comes around; hate to see careers end on a bad note
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
A nice win though
5-0, 11 hits, your starter goes 8 and gives up 2 hits without any walks.
Can it get much better? Is this the same batting order that hit a buck fifty for five games last week? Glad those guys are gone.
How long did that game last?
2hr 20 min? That doesn’t happen often for the Sox.
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
And people say Wake's games take forever...:)
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
One other question...
how did it come to pass that Beckett has the highest ERA among the 5 starters?
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
Sweet mother.
How is Lester’s under 4?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
The first one. They have a good offense.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Wake was very sharp tonight
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow
David Dellucci just hit a pinch-hit, 3-run HR off Joba Chamberlain to put the Tribe up 5-3 in the 8th.
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Off of who? Are you sure you saw that properly?
Current and Future HoF and 2008 Cy Young Award Winner Joba Chamberlain?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Yup
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Dangit. I forgot his Nobel Prize and Fields Medal.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Not to mention his Oscars and Grammys
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
And the Daytime Emmy.
But MFY-fans, thankfully, don’t brag about that one.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
He also ...
Has just as much right to a Gold Glove at SS as Cap’n Intangibles.
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by Drugs Delaney on May 6, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
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