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Rays @ Sox. Series Finale Open Thread: 1:35 EDT

Tampa Bay Rays at Boston Red Sox, May 4, 2008 1:35 PM EDT


Scott Kazmir, in his season debut, faces off with:


W-L ERA WHIP K BB
2008 - Jon Lester 1-2 4.31 1.56 22 23

There are some who believe that Jon Lester has turned a significant corner with his last start against the Jays. Color me skeptical. I hope, like everyone else, but I'd like to see him whittle the WHIP down below 1.45 and manage a K:BB ratio better than .96:1 before I jump on that particular bandwagon. 

As noted by nuthinboutnuthin, Brandon Moss had an appendectomy last night. Wikipedia says days to weeks as the recovery time. Here's hoping it's the former.

I'm writing this lateish, my time, so in lieu of lineups, how about a short rundown of our top MiL performers?

Hitters: (.BA/.OBP/.SLG)

George Kottaras, C, AAA (.258/.365/.526)

Ryan Khoury, 2B/SS/3B, AA (.271/.376/.447)

Jon Still, 1B/C/DH, A+ (.306/.387/.565)

Lars Anderson, 1B, A+ (.276/.372/.505)

Che-Hsuan Lin, CF, A (.279/.385/.378) (also, 11 SB)

Pitchers: (ERA/WHIP/K per IP)

Craig Hansen, RP, AAA (1.62/.66/1.02)

Michael Bowden, SP, AA (3.26/1.19/1.15)

Justin Masterson, SP, AA (2.42/1.21/1.25)

Felix Doubront, SP, A (0.87/.92/1.16)

Daniel Bard, RP, A (0.00/.60/1.6) (20 IP in relief)

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Is he ready now? Will we call him up anytime soon?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 12:10 PM EDT reply actions  

He'll get another shot as soon as:

A) Timlin, Tavarez, Lopez, or possibly Aardsma earns a DFA
OR
B) MDC seems to lose it completely, to the point of needing to “work out his issues” in AAA
OR
C) Timlin voluntarily retires
OR
D) Tavarez kills somebody, thereby being ineligible to play

...I think that’s all of ‘em. It’ll happen at some point, I think pre-ASB.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on May 4, 2008 10:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tavarez killing someone

Agreed, the possibility of this guy going berzerk is definitely a possibility. You never know when your quiet and peaceful crappy Long Reliever may turn into a psycho. :)

I’d go with C if I could choose. I like Timlin. He’s not good anymore. He’s just not good. It would open a space in the roster, and will be better for him.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lester K's Gomes

though Gomes should be on 2nd base…

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice work by Lugo to get Hinske

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions  

40 pitches now

Guess old Lester is kind of back.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Another error by Lugo

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions  

MLB.tv

is giving me the sound from the Phillies game and the picture from the Boston game. How entertaining.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Huge for Lester to get out

with two men left on base.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

52 pitches! Lester on track for a

234-pitch complete game. Dice K would be impressed.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Julian + the Rays

= danger.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Coco Crisp walks

They’re giving Lugo no love out there.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Pickoff attempt?

At Tek? Really?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 2:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Lugo is the toughest out in baeball right now.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Things change.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lester is pitching SO slowly.

Even more slowly than I remember from his previous seasons.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

30 point lead

For the Celtics against the Hawks. The Hawks just suck after all…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah! Is that why it's so quiet round here

for a Sunday game?

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

See, I would have like to yelled...

“You suck, Bibby!!!” with impunity maybe two games earlier

by nuthinboutnuthin on May 4, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

64 pitches through three looks a little better

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Hello! Basketball fans?!

C’s are up 68-34 in the 3rd. I don’t know much about basketball, but I’m guessing your time would be better spent watching your Sox.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Smoked

just foul by Youk

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions  

He hit every ball hard in that at-bat

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Bat speed is looking excellent at this time of the season

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

2-0

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

My hands were raised...Manny style

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did that in a wiffle ball game last year. I hit the ball really deep and it was going to be the first home run all season and—it went foul. I had dropped the bat, raised my arms just like Manny, and then walked back to the plate in shame.

However, I did proceed to get a hit on the next pitch…

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, and the whole dropping the bat and raising my arms was all done instinctively, not on purpose….

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Randy being Randy

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mike's hat is already taking on a golden tint

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap, Gameday is so slow today for me

I’m not even getting the game… How is it looking?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Pretty good.

Kazmir is throwing a lot of pitches and there have been some very hard-hit fouls off him.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Glad to see we already got 3 runs out of their ace.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if you caught this

but Kazmir is the youngest pitcher on the Rays staff. Unbelievable.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Really?

Is he 24 or something? Wow… I thought he was older. Not old, but 26 years old or something…

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

24 I think they said.

Born Jan 24, 1984.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good. Kazmir isn’t looking too great.

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Still a little life in Coco's bat

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

and then he goes 1st to 2nd on a stolen base

and 2nd to 3rd on the error

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Who has the most wins by a Red Sox pitcher?

Anyone know?

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Lucky MLB.tv has been eating my laptop alive

otherwise I would’ve suggested Bruce Hurst. Who Wikipedia tells me, is a LONG way behind Parnell (123 to 88).

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on. Stop nibbling around Riggens of all people.

I hate watching Lester. There, I said it.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Lester gets through five on 94 pitches

Give him a short leash in the sixth against Upton, Pena and Longoria.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

MDC throwing 97 consistently

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

and reaches 98 when surrendering the single to Barlett

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, credit to Iwamura

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by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Man, Coco is such a Dirt Dog. I wish we had a place for him on this team…

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Oki's ERA

down to 3/4 of an earned run per nine…

by nuthinboutnuthin on May 4, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Trade Idea?

I unfortunately did not spend the $150 for MLB extra innings so I am watching local games, angels v. orioles – dodgers v. rockies…

First off, man the rockies look bad.

2nd what about this trade. R. Doumit for prospects…

Doumit mashes as a catcher. I know it would cost a few prospects, but he is a solid hitting catcher and Seattle seems content on moving Clement to the DH role.

bad idea?

by SoxAcumen on May 4, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Youk has been thrashing the ball recently

HR.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Double steal...

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by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Called it

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by britsoxfan on May 4, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

MDC

Do you guys feel that he’ll ever return? Somebody get Timlin out of his body!

YOUK!!!

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I think MDC is great. Every pitcher struggles, he just needs to find his groove again. He is a good pitcher that will get back to his basics soon.

by Randy Booth on May 4, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

He is great

But he’s been struggling for quite a while. I’m not too worried, he’s young and all, and he all know what he can do. But it’s frustrating to see him this bad.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Where you read "he all know"

It’s “we all know”. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 4, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

So I just checked the standings

Colorado is already 10 games behind. It’s barely May. Holy crap.

by sdkramer.otm on May 4, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions  

No worries; God's on their side!

“I think character-wise we’re stronger than anyone in baseball. Christians, and what they’ve endured, are some of the strongest people in baseball. I believe God sends signs, and we’re seeing those.”
Rockies CEO Charlie Monfort
http://www.alternet.org/mediaculture/66067/

by 0157H7 on May 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

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