Open Thread: Brewers @ Red Sox

by Randy Booth on May 16, 2008 8:12 PM EDT in Open Thread Comment 97 comments

UPDATE: Sox up, 4-0. Go Dice-K!

			W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka	6-0	2.45	1.23	40	30

			W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Jeff Suppan	2-2	4.63	1.58	21	19

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A little bit OT, but

Did anyone see what that MFER called Robert Horry did on David West? Once again, he takes down an all-star with back problems. Do not be surprised if the Sterns win again.

Man, I H-A-T-E the Spurs.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 16, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Can we talk about how the refs have screwed the C’s tonight?

OverTheMonster.com

by Randy Booth on May 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

refs?

c’s scored 2 points in the second half of the second quarter.

offense was atrocious. I’m tired of watching bench players try to bull their way through three defenders.

by RickD on May 16, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But the C's are going to win at home

I’m not worried about that. The NBA refs are AWFUL, really. It seems every game has at least 3 bad calls going on against the visiting team. Besides, as pointed by RickD, the C’s weren’t exactly in top form today. Still, they’re a much better team than the Cavs. Kind of bad to see how they didn’t win in the playoffs away from home as of yet, but I’m not worried at all.

As for Horry… That guy should not be allowed to play any kind of pro sports. He can’t do anything well enough these days. He can’t score, he can’t grab rebounds, he can’t defend. He earns his living by taking players down. At least he should try and do that with someone who doesn’t have a back problem. I wanna see him doing that against KG. HE, Horry, would end the day with back problems. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We're playing baseball at last

and Daisuke gets through a scoreless first. Partly thanks to Varitek for a very nice CS of Weeks.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dice-Cy

How bad is that nickname? Yeah, I’m not good at all with those… :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Question

When Jacoby is not playing, why not let Pedroia lead off and have Youk batting 2nd? Did I miss something?

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Youk is hitting so well in the 5 spot

which was a problem last year. I’m happy leaving him there.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Excellent PA by Drew

Suppan walks in a run. He’s got… nothing.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

1-0

BB with the bases loaded…

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tek ends it

Was I the only one worried about us taking a 3 run lead? Glad we escaped without that! :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Terrific first inning

Suppan has to throw 31 to get through it. And not an easy 31 either.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That's the Suppan I remember

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You've got to assume we've got the book

on how to knock him to pieces.

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

All I know is ...

He was awful when he pitched for us

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Did have a career 6.10 ERA at Fenway!

That’s particularly pisspoor.

Papi’s shot won’t have helped matters.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One of Theo's worst moves

Bringing Suppan back in ‘03.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ugh

Don’t remind me…

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Prince

has apparently got Miggy Cabrera hidden under his shirt.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JJ Hardy

Just when I was thinking that he’s better than Lugo, he pops out in foul territory.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Braun and Fielder are the only Brewers I'm concerned about

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like Corey Hart as well

He’s a very solid player overall.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Julio

how we’ve missed you

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Calling it: double steal

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Brewers are so screwed

if Hart is ‘one of their big guys’...

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Okay, that's a little unfair.

But I’m just reacting badly to this godawful commentary.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As I said before

Hart is a solid player, actually. If you replaced him for JD Drew, I wouldn’t notice a big difference. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

But that goes a long way

From him being ‘one of their bigs’. He’s solid, that’s all.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

About t $13.6 million difference

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You got me

Shit, how come Lugo and Drew together make more than 20 million, or more than the Marlins at the beginning of the season?

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Papi!!!!!!!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Monstrous

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Opposite field

Nice

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Anyone

See Kyle Farnsworth give up 2 HR today?

Santana gave up 3 HR (14 on the year).

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I was distressed to see Joba get knocked around

as you can imagine.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Me too

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Pow

Decent inning from Daisuke. Let the pounding continue.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dice-K has good stuff today

The home plate ump has been very aggressive in calling check swing strikes.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Come on

Don’t let Soup off the hook

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Awww

Ah well. It’s a DH. Don’t want to tire our batters out…

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Rays lost

Nothing like scoreboard watching in May.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I bloody love

Sean Casey

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It's like Lugo's never been away

The fountainhead of crap is back at shortstop.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha

That’s our Lugo…

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

To his credit

he consistently finds new and exciting ways to suck at baseball.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure about that call

He looked like he was still in the box

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Actually, I reckon you're right.

But to give the umpiring crew their due – how are they to know that Lugo didn’t screw up? The overwhelming body of evidence would point to failure.

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How boring would our world be

With a good defender at SS? Lugo is an adventure. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

That slider (slurve?)

is looking good

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by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He was out!!

Dice-K had Hall picked off at sexond. An awful “safe” call by the ump. Even Hall thought he was out …

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Weeks sucks

You need to pound the strike zone on this guy, not walk him!!

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dice-K at 80 pitches

That ball call at second cost him 10 pitches.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ph

Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.

by britsoxfan on May 17, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wow

Dice-K pitches out of a second and third, no out jam by striking out two and getting a lazy fly to CF.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Nice work there

You gotta love Dice-K. He’s the best pitcher we have for now.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 5:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

90 pitches through 6

Not bad.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This is a good game to use Hansen

Not the one before it.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'd like to see Gagne

:-)

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Save him for when we need him

We don’t know how close it will be the second game. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Daisuke

is Japanese for “Escape Artist.”

by soxaholic on May 17, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Varitek

is defined as “Wow that was a bad baserunning decision.”

by soxaholic on May 17, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Awful

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

LUGO!!!!

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tek's fault

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by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Really?

How bad was it?

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The ball was hit hard

Right at the 1B, and Tek ran about a third of the way down the line and stopped.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Saw the play now

Really crappy by Tek…

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

One more inning for Dice-K

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Youk with the error?

What happened?

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tried to backhand a screaming groundball

And ended up just hitting it down, allowing the runner to reach.

by soxaholic on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hard hit ball on the backhand side.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Argh

by soxaholic on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Let's talk Lugo

—Out when ran into his own bunt!

—Missed the pick-off tag at second because he did not go low enough with his glove

—Hit into a double play again with nobody out and men on first and third.

I’m sure there will be more goodies before the end of the game.

WHY IS THIS SECOND RATE BALLPLAYER PLAYING FOR THE SOX??

by NG on May 17, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Wrong on all counts

The call on the bunt could have gone either way. The call at second was blown, plain and simple. Lugo got the tag down. As for the DP, that was a baserunning gaffe by Tek.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree with your analysis on all counts.

Why do you make excuses for this clown? It is no coincidence that he gets into all this trouble. It is because his skills are minimal for a major league player! He is obviously in over his head!!!

by NG on May 17, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lugo

definitely tagged out the runner at second for the pickoff. That was a horrible call. The double play, likewise, was not his fault, as Tek made a bad decision to try going home on the play. The bunt, I don’t know about.

by soxaholic on May 17, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not making excuses

You just don’t know what you’re talking about. Watch the game and try to understand it before making knee-jerk remarks. To blame Lugo for the DP that Tek ran into and a blown call at second base is ridiculous. As for the bunt, that sort of thing happens occasionally (and I’m not sure Lugo was out of the box when the ball hit him).

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on May 17, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Lugo cannot hit but his fielding is what keeps him in

I guess. Well he has more errors than any shortshot in the league, and even Francona is getting the message. Why did Francona remove Lugo for defensive reasons if that is his strenght? Anyway good thing he did because Cora made a nice play to help end the game.

by NG on May 17, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs