Boston Red Sox @ Minnesota Twins GameThread, May 11, 2008 8:05 PM EDT

GameThread: Red Sox (24-15) @ Twins (18-17)

by Randy Booth on May 11, 2008 7:45 PM EDT Comment 62 comments

Boston Red Sox @ Minnesota Twins

Maybe we can win this game without needing Jonathan Papelbon to come in and save the game. The starters:

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Tim Wakefield	3-1	3.33	1.26	25	21

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Nick Blackburn	2-2	3.65	1.41	20	9

Lineups to be posted later. Go Sox!

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Whoops.

I created a game thread a few seconds ago, seeing nothing up here then. Lineups are as follows:
Ellsbury – LF
Pedroia – 2B
Ortiz – DH
Youkilis – 1B
Lowell – 3B
Drew – RF
Crisp – CF
Cash – C
Cora – SS

Twins:
Gomez-CF
Tolbert-2B
Mauer-C
Morneau-1B
Cuddyer-RF
Monroe-DH
Young-LF
Lamb-3B
Everett-SS

by 0157H7 on May 11, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, I try to do a open thread a half hour before game time. I can up that if need be.

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by Randy Booth on May 11, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

This pisses me because it likely means we won’t be seeing Lowrie anytime too soon. I hate Lugo, I really do. It’s not just his bad defense, or awful hitting. It’s his picture mocking me at gameday. I can’t live with that.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

hi everybody

good to see no lugo..bad to see no lowrie

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

is manny just getting a rest?

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

seeing youk

holding a pink bat is out of control.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

2 K's in a row

Damn…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

do you know anything about this twins pitcher?

i’ve never heard of him.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No, I don't

But he didn’t look bad there. Having to face Youk and Lowell with 2 men on must be no fun for a pitcher, but he did good there.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

woah woah woah woah woah

wake just hit 66 MPH…we don’t want him throwing TOO hard now.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That was a fastball

For Wakefield….that’s moving pretty good!!

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by myteamrivals on May 11, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

83 years old shutout

That’s what happened with the Tigers. Sometimes I forget how old Wake is.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i didn't realize that timlin is so old

i knew that he was one of the older players on the roster, but i had no idea that he’s 42.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i must say

that i enjoy this commercial with the lizards doing the thriller dance…anything involving thriller = awesome.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

son

of
a
bitch

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I second that

Crap…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they were just saying that the knuckleball

does better inside a dome…i would think that it would be better in an open air stadium since the wind would help it move more..am i just dumb?

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Uh oh!!

Wakefield just gave up a three run homer…plenty of time left though.

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by myteamrivals on May 11, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Adam Everett hitting HR?

Wake is OFF.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

We're gonna need a HUGE miracle

Down by 5, no Manny, no Tek, Tavarez coming in…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't think Wake's "got it" tonight...

yuck

"When you don't feel good and you still get hits, that's how you know you're a bad man." - Manny Ramirez - the official quote of MVN Radio's Red Sox podcast

by timfrommvn on May 11, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

woof.

and that’s all i have to say about that.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i take that back..

two on no outs and big papi up

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by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Plenty of time left

How many times have the Sox come from behind this year??...plenty of baseball left…

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by myteamrivals on May 11, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i don't doubt their offense

it’s the pitching that i’m worried about.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

PAPI!!!

great hit.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Lowell looks bad ass with a pink bat

that is all

"When you don't feel good and you still get hits, that's how you know you're a bad man." - Manny Ramirez - the official quote of MVN Radio's Red Sox podcast

by timfrommvn on May 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

some can pull it off

some just look weird..like youk

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by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Crap

Just a run out of that?

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i don't know why

but i feel like lugo somehow has a hand in this losing right now.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Hahaha

I think he’s playing using Cash jersey.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it can't be Cash's jersey

he just had an RBI, which Lugo is allergic to.

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

When on defense, they switch places without anyone noticing

Speaking of switching places, is it just me or did Wake look more like Milf-Hunter today than he usually does? Maybe the real Wake is out there doing some porn.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

fuck man

7-1…let’s bring in Tavarez so we can lose SOME MORE

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

who is this guy

and what did he do with the real Coco?

A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.

by pedroiastroika on May 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

HOOOOOOOOLIAN

Nice pitch there.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I effing hate Taverez

Last time he came in, he coughed up 3, in a game we should’ve won 8-5, then paps blew the save later in the night, very, very frustrating.

by sydneysox on May 11, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

see, this sucks

We’ll end up losing this game like 11-10 and if hoolian had kept them down, we’d would’ve won…he just sucks.

by sydneysox on May 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't know why he wasn't trade

I’d BEG for the Rockies to take him.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Damn you, Lugo!

What? It was Lowell, not Lugo? That’s new.

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Mothers Day Miracle II, Lugo's redeption?

...

"When you don't feel good and you still get hits, that's how you know you're a bad man." - Manny Ramirez - the official quote of MVN Radio's Red Sox podcast

by timfrommvn on May 11, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

How bout Coco with a great game

2 run homer brings us within 2!

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Timlin

I love you dearly, but it’s getting to be closing time.

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Glad our bats managed to make this one look respectable

We would be winning this shit with at least a little bit of pitching. But it’s not over yet.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

This game has been so close from the 1st inning yet we’re not getting anywhere…

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by Randy Booth on May 11, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

That last HR was huge for the Twins

We had the momentum, after Coco hitted that 2 run shot. But giving that HR changed it, although I can’t actually explain why.

I really don’t know why they’re working Timlin, who I very much doubt to be able to give us anything yet, instead of working Hansen, who’s young and filled with potential. Both are risky in a close game, but Hansen would make more sense.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

See

You take away that HR, and it would be a tied game. :)

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Mikey making it interesting

JD: you’ve had two weak ground outs. Please do something useful here!

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

JD!!!

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And then he stops running

And makes out at third. But it’s a 1 run game with Manny PHing!

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Coco with a straight steal of second, wowie

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

And Manny grounds out

Well, that was a doozie.

by soxaholic on May 11, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Great game

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by MerryGoByeBye on May 11, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

see

the effing hoolian. He gives up his one run when it doesn’t really seem important and we end up losing in a high scoring game by 1. he sux, he should just go and fade away somewhere now.

by sydneysox on May 11, 2008 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

To this I say

F’ Wake. If he didn’t put us in a huge hole to begin with…

I mostly agree with you sydney, just wanted to make the point that there’s a lot of blame to go around, and the only pitcher who really did his job tonight was Aardsma.

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by Allen Chace on May 12, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

How can Wakefield be so schizo??????????

I ask again, was Wakefield so good against the Tigers the other night, or were the Tigers so bad??

Even if Wakefield can pitch say one good game out of 4, is that acceptable to the team effort if the other bad 3 games are as pitiful as this effort by Wakefield?? Little leaguers could have hit well against Wakefield this game. Can’t say that ever about most major league pitchers

by NG on May 12, 2008 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The knuckleball...

Really is a mystery. As I understand it, its effectiveness has as much to do with the conditions as it does with the pitcher. Unlike guys like Beckett, et. al., who are actually locating their pitches, the knuckler is more approximation, as its thrown to minimize spin, and the action of the air on the stitches is where that funky motion comes in. He’s guessing.

And yeah, I think it is acceptable – but not necessarily for a fourth starter. The real issue with Wake, other than the occasional crapfest (but see Bucholz v. Tigers, Yankees; Beckett v. Toronto) is the entourage. Cash’s hitting has ameliorated that somewhat, though. I think – and generally this is a good idea (see also Schilling and Colon) – that the Sox have to jettison Tavarez, and get a decent long reliever to supplement our starters who are vulnerable to age or episodic suck.

And btw, I had nothing to do with F’Lugo’s concussion – at least not so far as anyone can prove in a court of law…

by nuthinboutnuthin on May 12, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wakefield is always up and down

2007 Monthly ERA
April: 2.59
May: 4.09
June: 6.00
July: 5.52
August: 2.45
Sept / Oct: 8.76

I think it is the nature of Wake’s knuckleball to either be terrible or awesome on any given night. He is a particularly inconsistent pitcher, but overall he can be a solid player. Last year he provided more value than the $4 million he cost the team.

by 0157H7 on May 12, 2008 11:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs