Toronto @ Boston GameThread, Apr 30, 2008 7:05 PM EDT

OT: Jays (11-16) @ Us (Sox) (16-12). 7:05 EDT

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 5:17 PM EDT in Open Thread

Toronto @ Boston

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Dustin McGowan	1-2	4.18	1.71	23	16

	W-L	ERA	WHIP	K	BB
2008 - Daisuke Matsuzaka	4-0	3.14	1.24	28	17

And the lineups:

Lineup

Toronto Blue Jays @ Boston Red Sox

04/30/08 7:05 PM EDT

Toronto Blue Jays	Boston Red Sox
Alex Rios - RF	Dustin Pedroia - 2B
David Eckstein - SS	Kevin Youkilis - 1B
Scott Rolen - 3B	David Ortiz - DH
Matt Stairs - DH	Manny Ramirez - LF
Vernon Wells - CF	Mike Lowell - 3B
Lyle Overbay - 1B	Brandon Moss - RF
Aaron Hill - 2B	Jason Varitek - C
Adam Lind - LF	Coco Crisp - CF
Gregg Zaun - C	Julio Lugo - SS

I have tried, in vain, to find something substantial about Drew's injury last night. You'll notice, people who agree with me, that Coco is not leading off. DP-Youks, and it just feels like old times. Y'know. Except for Brandon Moss being in RF.

...on average, Dustin McGowan has been league-average. ERA+ of 100 despite a WHIP (1.714) that even Jon Lester could raise his eyebrows at. Luckily for McGowan, Dice-BB (5.34 BB/9) is his opponent.

Could be in for a good number of baserunners tonight. It's certainly not a good bet for another quick pitchers' duel. Of course, with Lester on the mound, last night's wasn't either. What've we got going for us? A pitcher who had pretty excellent results when he got a bit of extra rest last season. And he hasn't pitched since April 18th.

Anyone think it says a lot that Moss isn't quite in the bottom 3rd while 'Tek is? It's one spot, but I think it shows at least a little bit of faith in him.

"Fake Controversy Edit" Is Amalie Benjamin trying to start some $%^&? :)

You'll notice that J.D. Drew and Jacoby Ellsbury are both out because of their recent injuries. Dustin Pedroia, however, is not a pansy in, even after jamming his shoulder on that ninth-inning diving play yesterday.

Okay. I might've added some context. :)

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tie game, after top half of 1st

washington had a GWH chance in bottom of tenth, GIDP.
Is anyone here?

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:15 PM EDT 0 recs

second!

Yeah, I know its gettin’ old quick.
Hi all. Let’s hope the bats warm up a bit today. I expect Dice-K to keep us in this one for quite awhile they way he’s been throwing.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:20 PM EDT 0 recs

is it just me, or is the gamecast stuck?

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:23 PM EDT 0 recs

now its stuck on "hit in play"...

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:25 PM EDT 0 recs

gamecast

Mine kept sticking during yesterday’s game. Try switching over to the gameday at the mlb site, it seams to be refreshing much better.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:27 PM EDT 0 recs

thanks

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Allen, Drugs Delany, Bueller, Bueller, Bueller...

any one else besides me and sox415…we’re getttin lonely..

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:28 PM EDT 0 recs

Bueller here.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

nice to have that back

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

is anyone actually watching the game?

How’s Dice-K look? pounding the zone, flirting around egdes?

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:30 PM EDT 0 recs

only gamecast, allens always on the gamecast

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

I am indeed. Though not tonight, apparently.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

However, in a month, I'll have EI.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up 0 recs

Fangraphs would suggest the latter.

And that the Jays are chasing. 15 strikes, 12 balls.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

its ****ing stuck

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:32 PM EDT 0 recs

keep me updated, its stuck on Papi hitting

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:33 PM EDT 0 recs

Fangraphs says: Manny on 1st. Two flyouts by Lowell and Moss.

But Tek could already have hit for all it and I know.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Tek groundout.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Well...

Varitek is alleged have just “grounded out softly to second.” Sounds like a Massengill commercial…

by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs

Is the 2007 Drew their spokesperson?

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

Heh.

J.D.: Alex?
A-Rod: Yes, honey?
J.D.: Do you ever get that… not-so-fresh feeling?

by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

gameday

I’m running gameday and its working fine.
Toronto is up 0-0

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:34 PM EDT 0 recs

oops

I meant they are up to bat in the 3rd in a 0-0 game.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:35 PM EDT 0 recs

Spoken

like a true old school Boston fan.

“Dice-K is pitching well in anticipation of his eventual meltdown”

by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 30, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

its funny

Because you are spot on. I’ve been following this club for nearly 40 years and even after 2 championships old habits are very hard to kick.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

midinning obssessive entertainment

http://www.addictinggames.com/theworldshardestgame.html

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs

lvl 16 suckas

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

I can't take the music.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Apr 30, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah turn off the sound

it actually helps me focus lvl 23

If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee

by BoSox415 on Apr 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

Just got home

Wow, what a slugfest! I think bringing Mirabelli back may provide a spark to this offense…

Ok, maybe that’s too early…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 30, 2008 7:41 PM EDT 0 recs

infuriating

Dice walks Zaun after having him 1-2 in the count.
C’mon just pound the effing strike zone for chrissakes…

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 7:42 PM EDT 0 recs

The only good thing about having Coco in the line-up

Is that it means Lugo will have a smaller chance at GIDP.

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 30, 2008 7:45 PM EDT 0 recs

Eh. I don't know if anyone else has an effect on Lugo's chance to GIDP.

He’ll make it happen regardless.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

Lugo could GIDP

with the bases empty.

"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo

by DJDP23 on Apr 30, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

He could GIDP to the left fielder.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

He could GIDP in a basketball game

"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo

by DJDP23 on Apr 30, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

He could GIDP while sleeping.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Holy F.

I already saw this game last night.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:53 PM EDT 0 recs

I know the feeling

it got tedious 30 innings ago.

"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo

by DJDP23 on Apr 30, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wow.

Dustin McGowan: 3 IP, 34 pitches
Dice-BB Matsuzaka: 3 IP, 48 pitches.

No. Just no.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:55 PM EDT 0 recs

2+ innings later

And gamecast still has me wondering what happened when Papi hit that ball in play.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 7:57 PM EDT 0 recs

Stairs breaks up the no-hit "bid".

Personally, I’d rather he go for a “no-walk-er” one of these days.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:02 PM EDT 0 recs

71 pitches

through 4. Not good for Dice-K

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:09 PM EDT 0 recs

Eh. At least our bullpen is plenty rested.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up 0 recs

I pledge allegiance to the flag

Of the United States of score some F’n runs. And to my sanity, for whatever it’s worth…

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:11 PM EDT 0 recs

team BA.

Has this dropped like 20-30 points in the last 4 games? I mean sh*t, this is just killing me.
First we had the series against the Angels which was all 7-6 type games and now these 1-0, 2-1 games.
Just give a few nice 7-2 wins and I’d be happy.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:13 PM EDT 0 recs

Sweet fancy MOses.

McGowan is “up” to 47 pitches.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:15 PM EDT 0 recs

I liked our team better

when they were under the beginning stages of the flu

"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo

by DJDP23 on Apr 30, 2008 8:15 PM EDT 0 recs

So.

Should Jon Lester teach Daisuke how to be more efficient?

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:17 PM EDT 0 recs

lol.

by peskypole58 on Apr 30, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

yes...

an 11 pitch inning. whoo-hoo.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:21 PM EDT 0 recs

C'mon, regress to the mean.

Which, after the last 4-5 days, probably = an 11 run inning. ...which I’d be fine with, btw.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Apr 30, 2008 8:25 PM EDT 0 recs

mate

I’d be happy with a 3 run burst in one inning at this stage.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

huh.

is that Eckstein working Dice-K over for an 8 pitch at bat?

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:36 PM EDT 0 recs

then

the inevitable hit from the next batter.
Any time Eckstein is working you over for an 8-9 pitch ab you’ve got to look at your approach. I mean c’mon, David Eckstein.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:38 PM EDT 0 recs

thankfully

after the silliness of a pick off move to 2nd, really what’s the point, Dice-K gets the K.
I swear if this bloke just concentrated on pounding the zone, he’d be Mr. Cy Young every year.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:41 PM EDT 0 recs

and now

we continue are quest to make every opposing pitcher look like Bob Gibson circa 1968.
Which of course begs the question how a man with an ERA 1.12 could lose 9 games.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:43 PM EDT 0 recs

What a slugfest!

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 30, 2008 8:44 PM EDT 0 recs

I almost felt asleep here...

But I came back just in time to see Coco getting a strikeout. Why does this team seem to be testing my love all the time?

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 30, 2008 8:46 PM EDT 0 recs

the sox

will always test your love.

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

Dice-K = 104 pitches/ McGowan = 73 pitches

Just saying…

Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone

by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 30, 2008 8:53 PM EDT 0 recs

new diagnosis

What may have seemed like the flu has actually been rediagnosed as craphittingluenza. Its affected the whole team.
Ironically this all occurs on a day when the pitch hitting Micah Owens hits a 2 run shot to tie a game and raises his BA to over .400

by sydneysox on Apr 30, 2008 8:55 PM EDT 0 recs