GameThread: Blue Jays (11-15) @ Red Sox (15-12)
by Randy Booth on Apr 29, 2008 7:50 PM EDT
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PrintOpen thread here. Roy Halladay faces off against the Sox who retaliate with Jon Lester.
Game is at 0-0 in the 2nd.
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Good morning, well at least here, to anyone out there.
So a five game losing streak followed by Halladay and the Jays who always give us the sh*ts….can it get any worse?
Look Youk stole a base, maybe its some cosmic reverse thing and we’ll actually beat these guys for once. c’mon Sox.
haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I always thought about typing “FIRST” when I was the first one on a thread but didnt want to get labeled a cornball ( which I prob am for using words like “cornball”) .
I saw your post & laughed out loud!!!!!
"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."
( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)
lol and Lugo would make a nice play
If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee
At this point, I'll take a 1-0 win
as long as its the home team winning
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
Drew gone due to injured leg?
oh yay! just what we need.
Will Kielty get called up?
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
Quad injury
Kielty is injured too. The Sox need a healthy Drew. Hopefully, he won’t be out long.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Anyone heard anything else about the quad?
Something where he might’ve played through it later in the season, but now, it’s April, and also thank goodness we have a backup as good as Brandon Moss is?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
It didn't look serious
He tweaked it running to first. He came out to RF in the top of the next inning, but was gone after that. My guess, Drew will be day-to-day.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Oh yeah. Excellent 6 innings thusfar.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
It's going to be hard to outlast Halladay
He is a horse. His last three starts have been complete games.
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Yeah. And, well, on pace for another.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
some deep counts would be nice ...
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Tigers up 6-2
Hughes was awful again: 3.2 IP 8 H 6 ER 3 BB 2 K.
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Not necessarily hoping for it.
But you have to wonder if he’s hurt, maybe? He’s got good mechanics, good stuff, just isn’t getting it done, and isn’t even making incremental improvements per start.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
He'll be fine
He is only 21-years old. He probably could use another half-year in the minors
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
How many effin' plays has Eckstein made so far?
It seems like 90% of the Sox’ outs have been hit right at him.
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9 outs as the result of Eckstein.
Kind of surprised to see him out there. I would think with Halladay being heavy-GB, this would be a game for John McDonald.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Lester Ks Rolen
... who just missed a HR on strike one (a “Kevin Millar shot” down the LF line, just foul).
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Am I the only one who...
isn’t down with Coco “Bunt Singles Only” Crisp being guaranteed the most/tied for the most PAs today? Ells, Youks, or DP. That’s it. We don’t have any other leadoff hitters in my book.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Pedroia and Youk have struggled lately
Ellsbury isn’t playing …. How ‘bout giving Cap’n Jack an extra AB, Tito?
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Yeah. Maybe Drew if he were still in the game.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Wow. That one looked scary on Gamecast.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Yep. 4 walks still pisses me off though. Half that, and I'd be "elated".
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
I'll take 4 BBs if he only allows 1 hit
A 0.71 WHIP is impressive. Call him “effectively wild” ...
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
It is.
But, DD, you know as well as anyone that the hit rate is unsustainable, no matter how good Lester’s pure stuff is. (And when he’s on, it really is)
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
True
I think Lester will get better as he learns to trust his stuff.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well, and if he can keep this game going as his.
Could be a big step in the right direction. I think he’s more timid/afraid to throw strikes than unable, for sure.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
He may be tiring
There were a couple of deep balls in the 7th—one foul, one fair.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's the best RHP in the AL now?
1. Beckett
1a. Halladay ?
If you only consider regular season I might give the nod to the Doc.
this game
This game is a prime example of a “God damn Halladay’s gonna complete game us again” syndrome.
It'd be interesting
If the Cy were renamed the MVPitcher award. Halladay is crazy-efficient. Not sure anyone in the bigs matches him at this point.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
He works so quickly too
No four hour games with Halladay on the mound (also very few three hour games).
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's kinda like a really good Mark Buehrle speed wise.
Like that game Buehrle v. Boomer Wells a few years ago that was a speedy 2 hours and about 20 minutes.
Like the anti-Rafael Betancourt.
Thank God that guy never was/made it as a starter. 5-6 hour games.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Trachsel is a nightmare
I don’t think anyone is slower.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Remy and Orsillo mentioned
A Halladay-Buehrle game that was under 2 hours!
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
For a guy who averages 110+ pitches...
an 80 pitch count is not what you want to see in the bottom of the 7th.
5 Ks for Lester
Stewart out number 1 in the 8th
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2 Ks to start the 8th ...
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions
*Stands and applauds Jon Lester.*
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Way to go!
8 innings of 1-hit ball for Jon Lester. I hope he can build on this.
No let’s get him at least one run …
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In the minors until later in the season
barring injuries
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Manage his innings in AA/AAA
Use him…wherever he could be most useful starting in August/September.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Exactly
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions
sheesh...
we’ve got 2 live game threads going on the site, we are as f*cked up as the Sox hitting right now.
Overbay robs Moss
Crap … that would have been a double.
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Tek singles ...
Bring in Dave Roberts :-)
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PH Jed Lowrie? Too much to ask.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Yes
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hitting Lugo is the right move
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
9th.
Assuming we just need one run: Coco Tacoby, DP, Papi.
Umm. Please?
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
I don't think Ells will PH
with his groin.
Had forgotten about the groin issue?
All that means is “Bunt Singles” Crisp should lay one down.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
I'm with Syd
Top starters trump everything.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
He is an awful defensive SS
He’ll probably end up in the OF
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions
So true.
Though I could see him pulling a B.J. Upton, and being able to utilize his excellent speed and athleticism to become an average/decent/okay/good CF.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
No hes not are u kidding me.
Hes still young too and he hits better than julio ever though off but ya julio leads the majors in errors prolly
He's serious.
With Uggla at 2B, the Marlins have the “thank god they can hit and are cost-controlled” middle IF combo.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Tito managing for the win, rather than the extra inning tie ballgame ridiculous extravaganza.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Hallady on pace to go 12
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions
F.
I’m not staying up for that many innings.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
If there is a 12
It’ll be around 10:00, when westcoast games usually start.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
I was making a poor joke.
In reference to sydney’s: “he can quite easily go 115.” I tried to imply that he implied 115 innings. Wow. Horribly done by me.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
It really was my fault on that one.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
which one?
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
with yanking Lester. He’s a young gun still and could really use a superbly pitched 8 inning gem.
If you’re going to win you need 0 runs these next few innings. Cue your best RP.
Papelbon death stare
results in a K of Rios. Awesome.
Y'know what scared me
Uggie Urbina
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
uh oh
2-out double for Rolen. First Toronto runner to reach 2nd tonight …
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Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a play by Pedroia to end the inning.
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Eh.
After Pineiro this weekend, web gems should maybe be retired.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
It has to be
Not only was it a great play, but it happened in the 9th inning of a scoreless game.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Whoever called for McDonalds
your order is ready.
Dumb joke.
John McDonald defensive replacement for Ecks. Just to avoid confusion.
Don Orsillo :
“We’ve been waiting all year for David Ortiz to break out of it in a clutch situation“
5 career HR off Halladay
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Crap
Just out in front of that one, hooked it foul
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Single
It looked like Wells was playing Manny in the triangle. That should have been a routine out …
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Papi walks, Manny singles
Youk singles, Wells bobbles. Game over, Sox!
Hard line drive single up the middle by Youk
Wells charges but bobbled the ball. Papi scored the game winner.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll never understand how that works
"and THAT happened" -John Mayer announcing Pedrioa at-bat in Tokyo
oops
sorry about the (sort of) profanity. It was nice to win one of these
Lester, legendary stuff to battle Halladay.
Writers around Fenway
just re-opened their Laptops. A Lester Magnificent, But Sox Bullpen Falters in 10 headline seemed eventual.
They probably would have had him
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed.
Wells has a pretty good arm, and y’know, despite my agreeing with peskypole that Papi is the fastest man alive, he’s really pretty f’n not fast.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Julius Erving is a doctor?"
Don't know if you can.
But I know a few people that really enjoy MLB.tv or whatever the coverage service is that MLB offers.
To watch?
I don’t know of any. MLB Gameday has in-game video highlights.
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by Drugs Delaney on Apr 29, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
papi
But by sending him with no hesitation forces Wells to play it cleanly, which he didn’t so its always a good move…in spite of Papi’s lack of speed.
Just got home
Missed the full game. I hate these early starts…
How good was Lester? And how bad were our hitters?
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
recap
Lester was great, still gave up 4 walks though. Halladay, was well, he was Halladay. Fast, efficient, very difficult to hit. But hey, 1 bb, and 2 singles and it was done. I think in the 8th, Moss got robbed of a double, then it was followed by a single. So in the last 2 innings we started to hit a bit.
Thanks
Glad to see Lester getting better. 4 BBs is business as usual for him, but going 8 innings is something new this season. Hope he can keep this up.
Walk on, walk on With hope in your heart And you'll never walk alone You'll never walk alone
by MerryGoByeBye on Apr 29, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
huh?
Don’t consider walks in isolation. He gave up four walks and one hit in 8 innings. That makes for a .675 WHIP, i.e. a great outing for Lester.
I think we can see rest definitely helps Lester. With 3 days rest, he’s crap. With 5 days, he’s lights out.
Awesome game.
The Sox really needed to win this one. I couldn’t take any more flawless pitching, zero offense losses.
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