Some Help for an Angel Fan
Hello everyone in Red Sox Nation, I am a regular poster over at Halos Heaven (the Angels SB nation blog). I have somewhat of a dilemma and was hoping you guys may be able to help me.
You see, I have a neighbor here in SoCal that is a Boston transplant (he moved out here about two months ago) and obviously loves the Sox (but interestingly loves the Miami Dolphins instead of the Patriots). We've become good buddies because we both love baseball, but I have a hard time not despising the Red Sox because they have owned my team.
Now the one thing we do share in common is our hatred of the Yankees, and my Angels have owned them even more than the Sox have the last ten years or so. But he comes over to my house and watches the Sox and I have a hard time not being a little harsh on them because they just keep killing the Angels year after year. My only hope is that this year this trend reverses and I can start to not be so bitter.
Oh this might interest you as well--he's been looking for work so I got him a job with me vending at Angel Stadium starting today versus Kansas City. He also claims he'll have to make the Angels his second favorite team with him working there and us being friends and all, but can you guys figure out how I can be more kind to my friend in this dilemma?
I mean soon when the Angels and Sox go head to head, how do you not go to blows with the guy? Please help me find reasons to not hate the Sox so much...
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MFY
Focus on your mutual hate for the Yankees and poke fun at Steinbrenners annoying kid Hank. Regardless of what Rev. Halo and that crew feel, the true evil in the MLB are still the Yankees and their $200+ payroll.
I am a Sox fan and live in SoCal as well, many of my buddies out here are Dodgers and Angel fans. Most of the time Angel fans and I got along great, then the Sox beat the Angels a couple of times in the playoffs and it all went down hill from there.
Make sure you tell your buddy about Sonny McClean’s in Santa Monica, Red Sox Nation West.
by SoxAcumen on Apr 16, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Love/Hate
I have a couple of friends who are even, god forbid, yankees fans. I have a hard time tolerating them sometimes because of it. One thing I realized recently was respect for the yankees. One of the greatest rivalaries in all of sports is the yankees and red sox. Even though I absolutely dispise the front office for the yankees, I have to respect them and the players. If it wasn’t for the yankees the red sox would not be as good as they are.
So even though the Red Sox are the best team right now, in 5 years the Angels might be the best team in the majors (with the Red Sox right behind them). When that day comes just remember that it was us beating you up now that enabled the Angels to be so good.
by drabidea on Apr 16, 2008 1:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Advice...
The Sox dominating us is only making us stockpile more…good advice. I feel some anger dissipating.
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, so now you do us a favor and tell Rev Halo to get over his “Red Sox buy World Series” or the “Manny and Papi are taking steroids” rhetoric, I mean since nobody who is a Sox fan can post on Halo Heaven and defend their team without getting banned.
Censorship seems to be Rev Halo’s best debate tactic.
by SoxAcumen on Apr 16, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rev...
Rev and other Angel fans are rightfully bitter…I mean to say that the Red Sox don’t buy World Series championships is not entirely accurate, but come on, they do spend almost as much as the Yanks. If you added the postin fee for Dice-K, your payroll was right in line with the Yanks last year if not more.
I do have to admit that your front office makes some great decisions (like getting Big Papi off waivers or rule 5 or whatever it was) and not resigning Pedro and Damon. But your team isn’t exactly home grown by any stretch if the imagination. The Angels entire infield and most of our pitchers came up through the farm.
To suspect Papi and Manny of steroids is a stretch too. No evidence to back this. But you have to understand Angel fans are very bitter towards Boston because you keep shattering our playoff hopes. That’s basically why I need help from you guys. To Angel fans (and myself), the Sox are the evil empire, and having a good friend love them is tough.
I’ll try talking to Rev at the stadium…because I see him often there, but for me to go online and defend Sox posters at Halosheaven…I might get banned myself.
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol point taken. Sox have the 5th highest payroll in MLB, my problem is Angel fan saying we buy our WS when you guys go out and get a 7th outfielder for $20 mill a year. Pedroia, Youk, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Lester, Lowrie, Papelbon, DelCarmen all homegrown. Beckett, Lowell and Varitek were all traded for and we gave up Hanely Ramirez, Florida didnt get screwed. Dice-K makes the Sox far more money in Japan than we paid for his contract or posting. Wait till Yu Darvish he will post for $100 million.
Maybe Boston, Detriot, LAA and a few others who are around the same pay grade should just stick to ranking on the Yankees.
I like Angel fan, they are passionate and knowledgeable, I just wish Rev would be a tad more tolerant of trash talking and debate. I mean isnt Trash talking part of sports? lol
by SoxAcumen on Apr 16, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, True...
Trash talking is a part of sports, and unfortuantely, sometimes it comes to more then just “talking.”
Hey, at least when I work Red Sox / Angel games in Anaheim, I get some of the best tips from Red Sox fans. AND, female Red Sox fans seem to know more about their teams then female Yankee fans (who usually only know two players—Pay-Rod and Jeter). I cannot stand those chicks wearing pink Jeter jerseys and don’t know who Mariano Rivera is.
However, I’d argue that Youk, Pedroia, and Paps are the only real contributors to your team that are home grown. The rest of them are yet to be fixtures for the Sox. Time will tell if they stay with the team and produce as expected.
Also, remember you guys got Beckett and Lowell in a salary dump—not because Florida really wanted to get rid of them. They do not count. But I wonder how many Sox fans would like that trade to be reversed now…
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, we could afford their contracts, but we gave up Hanley Ramirez not some chumps who might never see the bigs.
Ellsbury is a regular player, Lester is 3rd in the rotation, Buchholz is 5th, Delcarmen is our 7th inning guy in front of Okajima.
As for your problem, I would say focus on insulting the Mariners and how they traded away Adam Jones for a guy who needs a hip replacement. I would stick with common ground—the women are insane in SoCal, the Yankees are embarrassing and the Mariners still employ Richie Sexton, or how long it will take for the A’s to dump Street, Blanton and Harden.
Keep it simple =)
by SoxAcumen on Apr 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One reason not to hate the Red Sox:
Manny.
He’s a joy. He’s wonderful for baseball. Who else could get away with pimping after home runs and turning triples into singles by jogging down the first base line?
Plus, he’s a hell of a poet.
Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.
by britsoxfan on Apr 16, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So...
I’m suppose to like Manny for being a clown?
Actually thart stupid homerun he hit off K-Rod last ALDS made me had nightmares. Wish I could get those stupid hands raised at home plate out of my head. Sniff…
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*have
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I thought that would go down well…
Nah. You’re an Angels fan. Love your team. Maintain a healthy disregard for everyone else’s.
Bottom 9th B:1 S:0 O:0 With Bill Mueller batting, Dave Roberts steals (1) 2nd base.
by britsoxfan on Apr 16, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Loving Manny and the Manny Being Manny thing is kind of a spiritual thing. At first you think he is crazy, then you think he is terrible in the field and hurts the team, then you become a fan, and finally you just accept Manny as being Manny and say Eff It, whatever happens, happens and you look forward to Manny quirks.
Personally, I cannot imagine the Sox without Manny.
by SoxAcumen on Apr 16, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yanks vs. Sox
Think of all the bad things about the Yankees. Pretend the glass is half empty. Imagine, They are spending the most money in the majors, and are 4th in the AL east. Now think of Steinbrenner, how he fired Joe Torre even after stellar managing, because he didn’t win his World Series. The days are over for them.
Now pretend the glass is half full, and think about Red Sox nation, about how the Sox are leading the Yankees. The Red Sox are the future. The yankees are 20th century. Hank Steinbrenner doesn’t believe in Red Sox Nation, a group that has been acknowledged by ESPN. He’s ignorant. He says “you don’t see people walking around in Red Sox hats, ou see them in Yankee hats.” Yeah, try and say that in 20 years, Hank. I guarantee the Boston Red Sox will be the face of baseball in the 21st century.
And i’m sure the Angels will be doing just fine too, of course… sorry if I laid that on too thick.
If the right side of the brain controls the left side of the body, then only lefties are in the right mind. Bill "Spaceman" Lee
by BoSox415 on Apr 16, 2008 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope so...
Nothing would please me more than to see the Angels win some more World Series in this century…plus second best would be to see the Yankees and their 200 million dollar payroll end up finishing behind the Rays in the AL East.
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by Angel Hawker on Apr 16, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how the Angels field teams with excellent pitching and aggressive base-stealing. I like Vlad. I liked OC, who was awesome for both the Sox and the Halos.
The vitriol for the Sox is perhaps understandable, but I’d prefer a respectful rivalry to the incendiary rhetoric seen on HH. The stretch of recent playoff defeats at the hands of the Sox must be disappointing. Money shouldn’t be a big factor in any hatred, though. The Sox have a rich ownership, adept at milking fans for cash, and willing to spend large sums to field a strong team.
The Angels are owned by a billionaire who could easily raise payroll further, if he wished. As it stands they’re probably in the top five or six. They have one of the top farm systems and collections of talent in the league. I have little doubt their FO could have signed A-Rod last year, or traded for Miguel Cabrera, or grabbed Santana. Instead they repeated the 06 offseason and signed another (unnecessary) CF.
If I were an Angel fan, I’d be more angry at my front office, which squandered an excellent opportunity to make an impact move last offseason, than at the Red Sox. I’d even be more angry that Reggie Willits, after posting a .391 OBP in his rookie season, is barely getting played. I’d blame the FO that doesn’t field a dominant team, not the team that beats them.
by 0157H7 on Apr 16, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everyword, completely agree
I just went to HH to see what the score of their game was and to see what the Mariners/Halo fans are talking about and their big topic is how bad ass Rev is and his censoring non-Halo loving participants. The guy actually brags about his record of what he terms “banning Trolls.” He talks real tough but is quick to remove and jettison anyone foolish enough to criticize the Halos.
0157H7 is absolutely correct on his opinion on HH and Angel fan.
IMO half the fun of the Evil Empire v. the Nation is that the Yankee fans fight back. They are completely wrong 99% of the time, but they do fight back.
by SoxAcumen on Apr 17, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not true
you have to earn your ban.
try me.
by Rev Halofan on Apr 20, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds boring.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on Apr 20, 2008 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed on one front at least....
I don’t know if there are too many HHer’s that are happy with the acquisition of GMJ.
by autry's cowboys on Apr 23, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox and Angels fans can clearly unite against a common foe...

by nuthinboutnuthin on Apr 21, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hah!!
That is some funny stuff right there…..he looks like the leader of a New York crime syndicate….wait a minute…
by autry's cowboys on Apr 23, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today is the Day...
So do I invite my buddy over to watch the game or not?
Peanuts...Get your Overpriced Peanuts!
by Angel Hawker on Apr 22, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It could be worse...
We could be in your division! ;-)
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.
by B Cap on Apr 23, 2008 6:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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