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Varitek expected to reject arbitration

According to Ken Rosenthal of Fox Sports, Jason Varitek is expected to decline arbitration, meaning the Red Sox would earn two draft picks if he ends up signing elsewhere:

Dodgers left fielder Manny Ramirez, Red Sox catcher Jason Varitek and Mariners outfielder Raul Ibanez are among the free agents expected to reject arbitration and remain on the open market, major-league sources say.

A fluid market could lead some free agents to shift plans or even re-sign with their original clubs before they are required to make a decision on arbitration at midnight Sunday ET. But virtually all of the top free agents seem unwilling to accept arbitration, which would tie them to their clubs on one-year, non-guaranteed contracts.

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Varitek, 36, seems an ideal candidate to accept the Red Sox's offer — despite batting only .220 last season, he would receive an increase from his $9 million salary through the arbitration process.

But Varitek's agent, Scott Boras, might prefer to keep pushing for a multi-year deal, perhaps even from the Red Sox — a bold approach, considering that the demand for high-priced catchers appears limited.

Some rival agents, however, believe that Boras might be offering Varitek in a "package deal" with the catcher's friend and fellow Georgia Tech alum, free-agent first baseman Mark Teixeira. The Red Sox are pursuing Teixeira, and the Nationals are among the other teams that might have interest in both players

Good news if Varitek doesn't re-sign with the Sox. However, I'll take a package deal if that means we can nab Teixeira easier. We'll give Teixeira his deal and then bring back Varitek for, say, a one-year deal? Sounds great to me, but probably not Scott Boras.

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A package deal?

I can’t see Tex agreeing to that – it only hurts his value and limits the teams that would want him. Yanks and Angels already have a catcher.

But the mere fact that this is being bandied about as a semi-credible theory demonstartes unequivocally that Scott Boras needs to be stopped. Can’t we like vote him out of office or something?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I think the package deal is a Red Sox-only thing … at least that’s how I perceive it.

by Randy Booth on Dec 6, 2008 5:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

What a prick.

(Not you, of course.)

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

When the deadline for Tek to sign wih the Sox?

I thought if he refuses arbitraion, then he’ll have a couple weeks to resign, else he can’t play for us til like May. Or something.

Right?

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Correct as far as I understand as well.

by matzushocka45 on Dec 6, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? I've never heard that before.

That could hurt.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 6, 2008 8:59 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Someone asked Jay Jaffe this very question last friday on BP. He said,

That rule fell by the wayside a couple years ago so they can now re-sign without penalty.

Straight outta HP. Go MDC!!!
http://soxcentury.blogspot.com

by alfonzo on Dec 6, 2008 9:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh.

Thanks.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 9:51 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think the Union is behind this, no doubt Boras plays a big part as well. The union doesnt want these guys taking arbitration. It will be interesting to see what Varitek gets if he goes elsewhere, I can’t see him getting more than one year for 5-7 million plus a club option.

by matzushocka45 on Dec 6, 2008 5:24 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

The union and Boras just want players to earn the most possible

If that means they should take arbitration, then that’s what they would do. Myself I’m pretty unconvinced that Tek will do better in the market.

by BTLove on Dec 7, 2008 7:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to point out

that Rosenthal didn’t quote me properly. I’m a Red Sox blogger, not a rival agent to Scott Boras. Not yet, anyway.

Rosenthal, Dec 6:
“Some rival agents, however, believe that Boras might be offering Varitek in a "package deal” with the catcher’s friend and fellow Georgia Tech alum, free-agent first baseman Mark Teixeira."

Me, Nov 20:
“Here’s a thought. Boras demands that both Tek and Tex get bundled together. If the Red Sox refuse to sign Tek, they’re out of the running for Tex.”

I await the correction on Fox Sports’ website with baited breath.*

*Not to be confused with ‘bated,’ which is much less ensnaring.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Dec 6, 2008 6:43 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Just promise you won’t leave for a better and bigger blog? :*-(

by Randy Booth on Dec 6, 2008 7:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

You could double my salary. Then I’d be making… Let’s see the math.

2 * $0 = 0
200% of $0 = 0

Then again,
Infiniti / My salary = Calculator Explodes

Any operation in which my salary causes things to explode is too good to mess with.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Dec 6, 2008 8:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Zero times infinity

My head hurts.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 8:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Anybody else want to kill that guy for doing all that work and proving nothing with any of his proofs?

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 6, 2008 9:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Well, I learned something. I just thought infinity times zero would be zero, but it makes sense that it’s undefined…

by Randy Booth on Dec 6, 2008 9:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? I knew that and I'm in Alg2.

Although I am in Math League [don’t laugh]. Infinity isn’t a number.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 6, 2008 9:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

It’s a concept.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 9:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yep.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It's fine. I've gotten used to it.

I’m not doing it for social reasons, I’m doing it for academic reasons.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, you need to add something to your social repertoire so you can balance out this blip…

by Randy Booth on Dec 9, 2008 2:07 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Just be that guy thats kinda nerdy, but somehow f’s a lot. I always admired him.

by BTLove on Dec 9, 2008 10:59 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

See now, the issue there is the whole Catholic abstinence thing.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 9, 2008 5:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

BSetcetera

You’re a mathlete?

My younger sister’s best friend is a mathlete. I have an irrational like for the term.

And good for you. F’ all the people who laugh.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Dec 7, 2008 5:20 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Mathletic support.

Good to see.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Dec 7, 2008 3:55 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No.

I hate that term. It’s NOT an athletic event. I’d rather be playing baseball or football but with a screwy knee, this is something that looks good on college applications. I really hate math, but I’m good at it.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:43 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Technically

Zero isn’t a number either. Numbers represent quantities and values and technically you can’t have a value of nothing. All However as a mathlete I assume you knew this…..

by sydneysox on Dec 7, 2008 7:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

Which is why I argued like crazy when I missed a question because I said zero isn’t even or odd on a test. They still marked it wrong though. It may be math, but I’m still crazy competitive.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:44 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget the salary.

I want a better company Christmas party. Aristocrat and McCormick aren’t exactly top-shelf liquor brands.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Dec 7, 2008 5:18 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You don’t like the Zhenka?

by Randy Booth on Dec 7, 2008 12:06 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Forget about that

Just bring a bunch of your own Dos Equis if possible. That stuff goes down like candy.

by Gnick on Dec 7, 2008 11:32 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can y'all stop tempting me?

Underage + surrounded by social/economic/etc. turmoil = not fun

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong...

Underage + beverages + [insert anything here] =tons of fun

by BTLove on Dec 8, 2008 10:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

If that doesn't include losing a chic friend, that you went too far with, because she's got a crazy best friend.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 9, 2008 5:15 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Again, the whole abstinence part precludes any assumptions.

I’d say she wasn’t clear enough that she wanted me to stop, but that could also sound weird…

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 10, 2008 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can we do a Wakefield type deal?

Do you think he would go for 6 mil/yr?

I would give Tek a 2 year deal too. Lets say he doesn’t bounce back this year, we only lose 6 mil the second year. That is 4 million less then what we lost on Schilling this year.

by drabidea on Dec 8, 2008 11:50 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Don't know if he's that loyal.

He IS a Boras client.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 8, 2008 5:47 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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