I give up being a Giants fan-turn to Red Sox

by giantsloseagain on Dec 4, 2008 10:53 PM EST Comment 40 comments

I have always loved Boston, but I live in SF. I am glad to now be a part of overthemonster. To start off, I stopped rooting for the Giants today, in the morning, but have been contemplating about this decision for over 1 month. Brian Sabean, GM, is so much worse than Theo Epstein, whom I like a lot. Epstein better than Billy Bean? Maybe.

I hope to be a regular poster here, because I love the Red Sox.( I told the fans at mccoveychronicles that 'Im through there)

On a lighter note, I liked the Tazawa signing, cheaper than most 1st round DPs in the MLB first year player draft.

I WELCOME MYSELF TO OVERTHEMONSTER.COM

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And I welcome you, too. Hope you have fun here.

OverTheMonster.com

by Randy Booth on Dec 4, 2008 11:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Wow, there is a lot less life here at over the monster than at McCovey Chronicles

by Mrbasepaul on Dec 4, 2008 11:14 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Yea, I noticed, wonder why?

by giantsloseagain on Dec 4, 2008 11:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Idk

but I like it this way. You kind of get to know the regulars, and you don’t have to check the fanposts every 10 minutes to avoid reading 50 comments at a time.

by Schulz on Dec 5, 2008 11:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

We're HARDCORE fans.

And for the record, the known trolls:
LouietheLip (~~Yankees~~MFY fan)
schmonsterballs—-

All others have been banned from what I can remember. Anybody else remember another?

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Less is more, dude

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Dec 6, 2008 10:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Welcome

Welcome man, I don’t post here a lot but I am on here a lot. I have always liked the giants but don’t understand a lot of the moves the make pierzinski trade.

by ManRam on Dec 4, 2008 11:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

That was a while ago

and it was one of the biggest fleecings in memory.
I don’t remember all of the players, but wasn’t it based around Nathan and Liriano for AJ? Ouch

by Schulz on Dec 5, 2008 11:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

what's funny is

I think that Boof Bonser was the most highly-sought out of Liriano, him and Nathan.

Adopted Giant: Aaron King

Wearing the crown by 2011. Or at least the LOOGY hat

by baetown415 on Dec 6, 2008 3:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ha

by Schulz on Dec 9, 2008 4:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm not sure I approve

Giving up on the Giants? While you’re at it maybe you should drop the niners too, pick up the Pats, or the NY football Giants. At least until they go downhill in a few years. Are the Lakers your bball team? My favorite soccer team is Real Madrid, what about yours? Michael Phelps your favorite swimmer? Are you sure you want to choose the Sox? How about the Phillies, they’re pretty cool.

As to why there’s “less life here than at McCovey”, I’ve only been posting for a few weeks so I’m not sure exactly, but it’s probably because there are some other really active Red Sox message boards/blogs, like SOSH and stuff. Well, welcome aboard.

by BTLove on Dec 5, 2008 12:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Hey, as long as he stays on through the bad times with us.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Why it's quiet

Well, it’s the offseason, and the Red Sox don’t have a lot of holes to fill. There are fewer subjects to discuss.

There are plenty of Red Sox forums and blogs out there. You have the individual blogs that (almost) no one reads, and the huge forums like on Boston.com, where discourse is typically crude, chaotic and uninformative. Then you have SoSH, which I read every day. Discussion there runs the gamut from awesome to repetitive (Some big piece of news happened, so let’s all say variations of the same thing for 15 pages). It’s also a heavily policed / moderated forum, unlike OTM, which is more freewheeling and accessible. In short, there is a lot of competition for OTM, which limits the number of people that come here.

Also, this site isn’t an enormous community, like some others on SBN. I kind of like it that way – you get to know regular posters better if there aren’t two hundred of them.

I’m also a little bit to blame. I haven’t been writing with the same frequency as during the season. If there’s less new stuff, then that may result in fewer people coming here.

Finally, we can blame Theo and company. If the Front Office made more trades just for the heck of it, complete with lots of bad or inexplicable decisions, we’d have a LOT more to talk about. But all is well on the AL Eastern front, and all is quiet on OTM.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Dec 5, 2008 1:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

My as well

change my name from giantsloseagain to something like Rockmysocks. I like that name.

by giantsloseagain on Dec 5, 2008 1:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Welcome to the bandwagon.

Jacoby Ellsbury is like so hot right now, JD Drew is a crock and did you see the catch Coco made? (Did I miss anything?)

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Dec 5, 2008 3:08 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

brit

Even I missed that second part.

I was probably nursing an extremely minor injury at the time that story broke.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Dec 5, 2008 3:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't you see?

He only played like four games last year and he doesn’t CARE enough. Look at his face.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Dec 5, 2008 3:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, leave him alone.

If he jumps off, then we can be brutal. For now, let him be.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't being entirely serious.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Dec 6, 2008 3:10 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I bet you will love the movie Fever Pitch

by matzushocka45 on Dec 5, 2008 7:24 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

[pukes]

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Of course

Theo is better then Sabean. He is better then most GMs in the game. Sabean is a good GM though. You picked a bad time to jump ship, they look like they good be good with all the pickups this offseason.

by drabidea on Dec 5, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

Sabean is a cretin.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Dec 5, 2008 9:57 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

ehhhhh

He did draft Lincecum, Cain, Keith Foulke, Bill Mueller, Derek Jeter, Posada, Pettitte, Carl Everett, Brad Ausmus, and Deion Sanders.

by drabidea on Dec 5, 2008 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

He also

Gave Barry Zito a 7yr/126mil contract to pitch as well as Aaron Miles, he also gave Aaron Rowand 5yr/70mil last year based of a clear career year, and he just gave washed up Edgar Renteria 2yr/18.5mil. All of this during a time in which he should be rebuilding and saving his money for when they can compete.

by Gnick on Dec 5, 2008 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

So, basically, they should cut him back to being a scouting director?

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Theo hasn't been great in the FA market either.

I love Theo but he has definitely given out some bad contracts too. Lugo, Clement, Renteria were terrible. He offered Nomar 4/$60mil. The Drew deal might end up OK. Foulke deal obviously worked out. Theo’s strength has been development and trades. He has truly excelled here where Sabean has made some bad moves (the Joe Nathan deal).

by BTLove on Dec 5, 2008 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I can't complain that much about the FA shortstops

SS for the Sox lately has been the baseball equivalent of the Defence Against the Dark Arts professor from Harry Potter. There really haven’t been excellent shortstops available on the FA market when the Sox have needed them (or their year in Boston was the Crappiest Ever.) The shortstops who stuck over the past decades were developed within the farm system. Hopefully Lowrie won’t suck and necessitate finding another FA SS.

by morineko on Dec 8, 2008 3:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think the Renteria is a good signing.

Certainly an upgrade over whatever they had there last year, and he doesn’t cost a draftpick.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 6, 2008 3:00 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

There's an idea.

Sign Aaron Miles for the bullpen.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Dec 6, 2008 4:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Sigh...

Welcome to the bandwagon.

by Charged on Dec 5, 2008 3:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Zito killed the Giants

You dump so much money and get almost nothing from that player just hurts. Once Zito’s contract is finally gone, I can see the Giants being players in the NL West again. That money could of gone to someone like a CC who can get people out.

by SoxAcumen on Dec 5, 2008 4:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs