Role players win AL MVPs?

I personally love the haters who come on this board and run their “you are not as good as you think you are even though you won 2 WS titles in 5 years…” smack.

I love it. Hilarious.

Some counter points to your argument:

Boston is the 26th market in the US, 19th if you include Vermont, Rhode Island, New Hampshire and Maine. So what is San Diego’s excuse? or Atlanta? or Washington?

Our staff is loaded with “our” talent and they all contribute significantly – Manny Del Carmen, Lester, Papelbon, Masterson, and eventually Bowden, Bard, Kelly, Tazawa and Buchholz.

Dice-K was an investment in Japan more than an investment in Dice-K. How much money do you think the Red Sox get from Japan. Actually I am praying the Yankees insult Matsui and deal him so that no Japanese player will ever sign with MFY again.

Okajima cost us $2 million a year. Why didnt your team take a chance on him? Oh yeah bc Boston just buys championships…blah, blah, blah.

Beckett and Lowell were traded for one of the top 5 players in baseball. I think everyone should give this a rest. Its not like we sent Javier Lopez and some A ball pitcher. We traded Hanley “Effing” Ramirez.

Josh Beckett’s 2007 season was worth 9 Hanley Ramirezes. I hope that is the plural of H. R..

Clay Buchholz is worth what the market dictates and right now he is the first player on every other MLB GM’s mind when dealing with Boston. So, again, I guess you know more than every GM in baseball.

Jason Bay is a cheap 30/100 player who has played beyond expectations.

2009 payroll for Boston currently is around 130 million making the Red Sox the 4th highest payroll. What is your excuse MFY, Mets, Cubbies?

The 2004 payroll for Boston will not make up for the Yankees becoming the biggest choke artists in SPORTS, not just baseball, in SPORTS HISTORY!!! The 2007 Indians are saying right now, “Thank god we are not the 2004 Yankees…”

You have absolutely no idea what was offered for H. Ramirez. You are not on the phone with Theo, you are not in the loop, so quit trying to act like you have a clue.

Find a board with your team and talk amongst your people.

Finally, Happy New Year!!! May your best days of 2008 be your worst of 2009!

Alright, there are like 3000 wrong things among what you said, but I’ll start from the beginning: This is the Boston Red Sox, so even if Theo wanted to build this team like the Rays he wouldn’t be able to. Profitable teams spend more, teams with lower revenue spend less. But that’s actually meaningless, since we all know that the best talent in baseball is the cheap one. Something the Red Sox figured it out, and it seems like the MFY have long forgotten.

We signed Ortiz for 1.25M, Foulke for 3.5M, Mueller for 2.1M, Millar for 2M. Schilling, Cabrera and Roberts were trades. Btw, we traded de la Rosa for Schilling, at the time he was a highly regarded prospect and now, as we know, he won 3 Cy Youngs and has led the league in K’s every single fucking year since we traded. It’s not like we traded only guys like Hanley.

So, no, this is not a ‘small market club of scruffy underpaid underdogs’, this is a smartly run franchise that has won 2 WS in the past 4 years. Theo only signed 2 really expensive FA: Dice-K and JD Drew. They weren’t big name guys like Tex or CC, no matter how you look at it. Basically for the future, this team will be built largely through the farm system. That’s the smart way of doing that, as the last 2 WS teams would tell ya.

People talk too much crap about how the Red Sox is run. The funny thing is how wrong these people always are.

I missed that he called the 2008 MVP a fucking ROLE PLAYER. Jesus.

how a Yankee fan is dogging the Red Sox farm system and the ability to grow good players. So what if the Sox don’t trade away their young talent. It seems like every time the Yanks make a big trade, they trade away beans to the other team. Look at the Bobby Abreu trade (C.J. Henry???). Every time the Sox are rumored to be in the mix for a trade no matter who it is with, they’d have to give the world for that particular player. Look at the Santana trade rumors. But you know what, I’m glad they don’t trade them away because it just goes to show you Yanks how invested Theo is in his farm. The Sox have also been good about not stupidly re-signing players. Pedro and Damon didn’t re-sign, and Theo is now smiling.

And by the way, a role player is somebody like Dave Roberts, Doug Mientkewicz, Pokey Reese, Bobby Kielty, Eric Hinske, you know somebody who’ll play a small role on a championship team. Or do you not remember?

…and all the retards come out.

I had almost forgotten why I hate Yankees “fans” when those cowards were hiding as their team gagged its $200 million way out of the post-season last year.

All is right with the world, again.

How many hitters in the Big Red Machine “scared the crap out of people”?

The late 90s Yanks?

Homers are fun – doubles win games.

Julio Lugo, Matt Clement and Édgar Rentería the sox have spent the money and have been burnt. And the yankee’s always seem to come out on top with that nuclear arms race approach? Pedroia and Youkilis ROLE PLAYERS take your yankee horse blinder’s off.
If their ROLE PLAYERS Iam mary fuckin poppins.

Can he catch? hmm hmm

The one thing he was right about though is that the 2004 team was almost entirely guys from other systems (obviously wrong that they were all “high-priced free agents”). It just shows how perfect that year really was. So many things went right; from Millar killing it to Mueller winning the batting title (or was that 2003?). But signing guys like that and counting on them to perform at hugely discounted prices is simply not the way to win consistently in this league. Those years were anomalies and that’s why Theo has shifted his focus to homegrown players who are cost-controlled.

Also, even if we trade away home-grown talent, it still has provided value to the team. The successful development of Hanley Ramirez netted this team Josh Beckett and Mike Lowell and won us a World Series.

Peyton Manning won the NFL MVP. Brady won it last season. Glad to see the 2 best QBs ever (No, I’m not forgetting Montana or Unitas, or something like that) winning the award back-to-back.

Maybe I’m biased because I’m LDS, but Steve Young is one of the greatest quarterbacks to play the game. Of course, he’s behind Marino, Montana, Peyton, Brady, and Favre. But he was awesome, like Michael Vick with an incredibly accurate arm. Anyway….back to baseball….

I forgot to say that Steve Young didn’t kill dogs.

He did it. You know it and I know it.