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2008 SBN Baseball Awards: Cy Young

As voted on by the SBN baseball family, the 2008 American League and National League Cy Young winners:

National League 1st 2nd 3rd Points
Tim Lincecum 14 2 1 77
Johan Santana 1 8 3 32
Brandon Webb - 4 7 19
CC Sabathia 3 - 1 16
Cole Hamels - 1 2 5
Roy Oswalt - 1 - 3
Ryan Dempster - - 2 2
Dan Haren - - 1 1
Edinson Volquez - - 1 1
American League 1st 2nd 3rd Points
Cliff Lee 13 5 - 80
Roy Halladay 5 10 1 56
Jon Lester - 1 5 8
Francisco Rodriguez - 1 2 5
Mike Mussina - 1 2 5
Daisuke Matsuzaka - - 4 4
Ervin Santana - - 2 2
Justin Duchscherer - - 1 1
Joe Nathan - - 1 1

I forget how I voted, but I believe I had Lee and Halladay in the top two spots. Jon Lester was most likely my No. 3 guy.

MVP winners will be posted today.

Any discussion?

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Looks about right in the AL

Although I don’t think K-Rod should be that high. The closer is an overrated role if you’re only pitching one inning at a time.

Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.

by mystman995 on Nov 6, 2008 9:38 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Especially when

Paps and Nathan were better closers than K-Rod.
Papelbon: 69.1 IP, 8 BB, 77 K, 198 ERA+, 0.952 WHIP
Nathan: 67.2 IP, 18 BB, 74 K, 305 ERA+, 0.901 WHIP
K-Rod: 68.1 IP, 33 BB, 77 K, 198 ERA+, 1.288 WHIP

It’s a lot more like BB-Rod, honestly. Nathan, Paps, and Mo all have multi-inning saves, while BB-Rod had zero.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2008 11:33 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Corrrection: K-Rod had 34 walks.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2008 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

K-Rod sucks

I can’t believe there are talks about this fool winning the MVP.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 6, 2008 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

K-Rod got lip-service for the Saves record

Saves are a very “ho-hum” stat for me, dependent on many aspects that have nothing to do with the pitcher.

Blown saves are perhaps a better stat to count.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Nov 6, 2008 2:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No disrepect to Lee

But game in and game out, I saw nobody tougher than “Doc” Halladay this past year. With support, he would have 25 easily.

by ccthemovieman on Nov 6, 2008 3:14 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

IMO, Roy Halladay has been the best pitcher in the AL over the last 3+ years. He is the most underrated pitcher in baseball.

by Schulz on Nov 6, 2008 3:42 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lincecum gets his due! Huzzah!

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 6, 2008 4:35 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hi guys long time no see!

Sorry I was gone for so long, too much going on and I was helping out with the elections. The month or so after the World Series in my opinion is the worst time for baseball, just nothing really interesting going on until teams start making serious moves later on as the Spring Training approaches. I absolutely can’t wait for the World Baseball Classic.

Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.

by RedSoxUltras on Nov 6, 2008 4:48 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

*remove article before Spring Training

Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.

by RedSoxUltras on Nov 6, 2008 4:48 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't look like this season is going to produce any big awards for the Red Sox

Except Pedroia for MVP?

Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.

by RedSoxUltras on Nov 6, 2008 4:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

He got a Gold Glove.

Silver Sluggers announced later.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 6, 2008 5:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia

will get the silver slugger at 2B as well. He deserves both awards

by Schulz on Nov 7, 2008 2:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Full-disclosure:

My ballot went: Halladay, Lee, Lester.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2008 7:23 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Wait. It's possible I went with Santana in 3rd over Lester.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2008 7:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

AND...I did.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2008 7:35 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

WTF?

You took Ervin instead of Lester?! Why?

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 7, 2008 12:04 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Some people should not be allowed to vote, or nominated for Vice-President.

I should find out who left Halladay off, because it cannot be defended. Lots more voters for the “real” Cy Young left him off, but let’s face it, we’re probably talking about ballots with Lee in the top spot, K-Rod listed second or third, and either a Yankees or Red Sox starter in the other spot.

by Jay on Nov 19, 2008 1:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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