A Historic Election
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November 4th, 2008, perhaps the most historic day in U.S. History. Today, the hopes and dreams of millions of Red Sox fans were realized, when Most Valuable Player (MVP) candidate Dustin Pedroia was selected as MVP in the Internet Baseball Awards. The results were called by Baseball Prospectus around 10am on Tuesday.
From Tallahasee to Portland (both coasts), 1,400 voters fired up their high-speed internet connections, told their mothers not to disturb them, and placed their votes. When the dust had settled, one man was Dustin the competition. Pedroia made history by being only the second player to win IBA MVP the year after he was rookie of the year. The first was former Red Sox Nomar Garciaparra.
The contest was fierce, especially in battleground basements, but in the end, Pedroia's superior organization and fundraising proved pivotal. Curt Schilling's prominence on EverQuest was cited by analysts as a critical factor. Advocacy by non-partisan sources may have also played a role. Pedroia was second in first-place votes to Joe Mauer(408 to 423), but he gained a clear majority in second place votes (319-240). Overall, Pedroia won by 12,963 points to Mauer's 11,416. Grady Sizemore placed third with 7,871 points.
Other Red Sox players were also in voters' consideration, both for MVP and for other awards. Kevin Youkilis placed sixth in the MVP race (6391 points). Jon Lester and Daisuke Matsuzaka were third and fifth, respectively, in the Cy Young race. Among rookies, Jacoby Ellsbury was fifth for the Rookie of the Year award. And Terry Francona was third in Manager of the Year award voting.
Congratulations to all the Sox players nominated, to Dustin Pedroia and to the other winners, and to all the brave people who voted in the IBA elections.
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Resisting urge...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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Congratulations from my country to yours.
America: you had the chance to make a change.
You could have wavered in the face of a historic opportunity. You could have blinked in the headlights. You could have voted for a much older man (by four months).
But no. You voted early and often, and the right man is today celebrating his success.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Nov 5, 2008 3:10 AM EST 0 recs
to go...
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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Aww, screw it.
IT’S MORE RACIST TO KEEP GOING ON ABOUT HOW DAMN HISTORIC IT IS TO HAVE A BLACK GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAN IF PEOPLE HADN’T VOTED FOR HIM. It shows that people are still dividing his election from any other candidates’ because of his race.
Sorry, I’m pissed at the media, stupid (meaning uninformed) voters, and America in general right now. AND THEY PUT MORE DEMOCRATS IN CONTROL OF THE MOST POWERFUL BRANCH!
Metaphor: Right now, America is barbecuing, and the steak (W) is getting completely destroyed because we put to much lighter fluid (Democrats in Congress) on the grill. We just put a new steak (Obama) on the grill and added more lighter fluid. Smoky doesn’t approve:

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:12 PM EST
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Feel free to email any rants to me.
My address is on my profile page: http://www.sbnation.com/users/bs.uf15bosox9bears23
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:13 PM EST
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Racist?
How is it racist to “KEEP GOING ON ABOUT HOW DAMN HISTORIC IT IS TO HAVE A BLACK GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAN IF PEOPLE HADN’T VOTED FOR HIM”. Besides the fact that this sentence makes no sense grammatically it is “racist” to talk about the election of a black president being historic. Racist means judging someone based on the preconceived nature of their race.
It is also historic because today marks the day that African-American culture has prospered to the highest degree in spite of 250 years of American racism.
by Gnick on
Nov 5, 2008 10:46 PM EST
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The metaphor
Also your metaphor was just another way of saying, “we have a problem and we’re continuing this problem to a further extent.” The food part was completely unnecessary and also riddled with grammatical errors.
by Gnick on
Nov 5, 2008 10:50 PM EST
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Wow, grammar wasn't my intent.
And yes, but I was hungry. And the food is symbolic, it represents how we are wasting precious things (time, money, etc.)
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 4:56 PM EST
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Read from my sentence, not your quoted fragment.
I said “MORE.” The media is acting like America is/was a bunch of racist white people that never would’ve voted for a black person. Racism has been redefined by modern culture to mean “anything that is detrimental to the advancement of a race (usually a minority) by another (usually a majority).” If people are still talking about him because of his race instead of his achievement, then we have not gotten over racism.
Btw, I have no issue with any race of people. They have no control over what race they are born as.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 5:04 PM EST
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Relax, put things in historical context.
Given America’s past history of slavery and civil rights issues, I think that it is historic and worth talking about.
Remember that black people and women really had no political power until the 1960s. That’s recent history. I’m proud that America has made great strides towards equality over just a few decades (two generations).
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Nov 7, 2008 12:53 PM EST
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bs.uf- take a deep breath, read what you wrote again, and realize it doesnt make very much sense:P
by spinz on
Nov 6, 2008 2:50 PM EST
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Only slightly.
I was a bit deranged, but the basic concept I was trying to convey still gets through.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 5:05 PM EST
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Is there a reason you replied to me?
Go on. Let’s hear it.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on
Nov 6, 2008 3:12 AM EST
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I regreted posting that as a reply to your comment almost immediately.
I didn’t pick up that it was about the baseball election and not about the political election. I get a big’ol Reading Comprehension FAIL. I apologize deeply for attacking you, and not picking up on your humorous comparison. Now that I get it, I am laughing.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 5:08 PM EST
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You Must Be Really Young
To say that the media has misconstrued the American people to look like they wouldn’t vote for a black person and are still racist. I am young too and have not lived through most of the darker times of our nation’s history in terms of race but ask anyone over the age of forty and they will probably tell you that they could not have imagined there ever being a black president twenty years ago.
by Gnick on
Nov 6, 2008 5:42 PM EST
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See below.
If they stopped talking about it in terms of “history” it would seem like we’ve made more progress. Eventually, every not-physically-impossible-thing has to happen (see success, Rays). That’s the Cubs mantra anyways.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 6:09 PM EST
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Talk about a change!
Mother---- him and John Wayne!
by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 5, 2008 11:25 AM EST 0 recs
-HAHAHA-
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:02 PM EST
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'Most historic day in U.S. history?'
Obviously, you don’t know ANY American history……plus, please keep this website to what it’s intended to be: sports. C’mon….really – get a grip!
by ccthemovieman on Nov 5, 2008 5:15 PM EST 1 recs
Not reading the entire story first?
Also, the /sarcasm tag appears to have broken for this story.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 5, 2008 9:04 PM EST
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Rec'd.
Now that’s satire.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Nov 5, 2008 6:29 PM EST 0 recs
Man, 0157H7, I was about to kill you if this was about Obama.
Good save.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 5, 2008 9:03 PM EST 0 recs
You gotta relax man.
You are waaaay too high strung for a fifteen year old.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on
Nov 6, 2008 12:01 AM EST
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Fifteen?
I suppose that explains it…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on
Nov 6, 2008 12:31 PM EST
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Sorry just really mad that I can't have a say in this because of my age...
and yet people who have no knowledge of how the government works can.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 4:54 PM EST
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Also, blame The Man.
He won’t let me rant in public without fear of being physically attacked or disciplined.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 6, 2008 5:09 PM EST
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BS
Political awareness and interest in the future of our country is a great thing, especially at your age. No matter which side of the isle you will vote from, you’re contributing to the direction of our country and that’s the foundation of America.
That said, there’s something to be said for having a bit of life experience. I don’t doubt that you understand most of the issues, and have strong opinions on them, but having a bit more experience with the ramifications of legislative changes is helpful.
There is a reason that historically & culturally, groups of people are led by elders and not youngsters.
To make a sports analogy, you’re the 3rd string QB. You’re the guy with the clipboard taking notes. Pay attention to what the country does right and wrong, and figure that into your future decisions.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Nov 7, 2008 12:59 PM EST
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BTW
I felt the same way at your age, but more than a decade later it’s not terribly important. You have years and years and years of voting ahead of you.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Nov 7, 2008 1:00 PM EST
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Continuing the sports analogy:
Right now, it seems like the starter is playing in a league full of players that are faster, stronger, and smarter. He’s making bad throws, not making his reads, and holding on to the ball to long. It’s hard to learn when your mentor is making many more mistakes than good plays and driving the team into the ground. All we’re learning is what not to do, which is the worst teaching technique possible, IMO. At least give the backups more time in practice (local elections first).
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 7, 2008 5:28 PM EST
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So
Are you generally upset that there is no criteria apart from age for voting, or are you contending that all people the millions of people who voted for Obama must not know anything about how the government works?
Or is it an ALCS hangover…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on
Nov 7, 2008 12:42 PM EST
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Well...
There are other criteria, but I know that there are people who will for a candidate without proper knowledge of that candidate’s positions and beliefs. Not just Obama supporters either, there were plenty of McCain supporters who voted for him solely because they didn’t like Obama (racist and unracist reasons).
Not an ALCS hangover, I’ve moved on to 2009, except for the awards.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 7, 2008 5:16 PM EST
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Also, why would I be upset that age is only thing preventing me from voting?
I’m fine with it since there were plenty more unknowledgeable supporters of both sides below the voting age. I’m mad that it is preventing knowledgeable voters from voting while unknowledgeable elders can.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 7, 2008 5:19 PM EST
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Look, leave it now.
You’ve said your piece, repeatedly. No one is in any doubt about your political affiliation or your views on the election. It’s time we all moved on.
I’m taking SoxDevil’s lead on this, and keeping my response to you calm and polite, despite every fibre in my being wanting to address the substance of what you’re saying . We have to respect the wishes of this blog’s editors, and drop the political discussion, if you can call it that..
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on
Nov 7, 2008 5:34 PM EST
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Email me then, address on my profile page.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 7, 2008 5:35 PM EST
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No. Honestly, you're not worth the candle.
Just stop polluting this blog with your ranting. That’s my final contribution on the topic, and the previous post should be yours. Try to exercise some self-restraint.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on
Nov 7, 2008 5:43 PM EST
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Okay. I'm stopping after these last two comments:
I’ll stop but I’m gonna be a bit more angry about sports then. Can’t keep emotions bottled up. Won’t insult people though.
Last comment will be below.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 8, 2008 11:45 AM EST
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Start a punk band.
Changed my life, I tell you.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on
Nov 9, 2008 9:30 PM EST
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Punk seems to have gone more Emo these days. I don’t really move in punk circles, but I don’t hear a new Ramones-esque band out there.
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by SoxDevil on
Nov 10, 2008 2:00 PM EST
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See below.
I love how one comment switched this from politics to music.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 10, 2008 5:09 PM EST
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HELL NO.
I hate punk music. Punk is NOT rock. Rock is AC/DC, Metallica, Nirvana, Deep Purple, The Doors, etc. Not screaming without any Y-Chromosomes.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 10, 2008 5:08 PM EST
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Fugazi called
They said to stick it up your butt.
: )
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on
Nov 11, 2008 2:13 AM EST
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No thanks.
I don’t swing that way.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 11, 2008 11:38 AM EST
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What about the Sex Pistols?
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Nov 11, 2008 11:49 AM EST
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Eh, to each his own.
I put up the etc. to allow for personal extensions of that list. Those are just the more famous bands that I listen to.
Also, I have a weird way of defining music genres. Punk includes screamo, goth, emo, etc. There is some punk music that is borderline normal rock (Seether, Three Doors Down for example).
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 11, 2008 5:11 PM EST
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Also, I don't like the Beatles all that much either.
Maybe it’s the British thing. Jimi kicks their ass.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 11, 2008 5:12 PM EST
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Jimi and the Beatles are not mutually exclusive.
Manny ain't the only bad man.
by tommy.otm on
Nov 11, 2008 7:22 PM EST
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Some people don't like one or the other.
Again, to each his own.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 12, 2008 4:56 PM EST
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The Beatles were remarkably progressive
You can still hear the same distortion and effects used in songs today. You’ll probably like them when you’re older.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on
Nov 13, 2008 12:22 PM EST
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We'll see.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 13, 2008 8:09 PM EST
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Not responding out of respect for blog owner's wishes.
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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on
Nov 8, 2008 11:46 AM EST
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