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Red Sox won't re-sign Timlin, Casey

Theo Epstein says a couple of Sox elders are done with the club:

Epstein said that Mike Timlin wants to pitch next season, but it won't be in Boston. Epstein found it remarkable that Timlin spent six seasons with the Red Sox.

Epstein also said he's informed Sean Casey that the team would address more pressing needs, which likely means Casey won't be returning.

I really like both these guys but it's obvious it's time for the Sox to cut bait. Timlin was just bad this season. I hope he finds success elsewhere, but I think a lot of us would agree that he should just retire. Casey was a solid backup, but the Red Sox have better options out there and with all this youth sprouting up, Casey is the odd-man out.

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MLBTR has the Sox offering Coco for Khalil

The question is: Why?

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 4, 2008 12:24 PM EST reply actions  

I dunno.

Maybe they tracked the direction of his hits and concluded he’d be a good hitter in Fenway. Keep in mind that he also plays in an extreme pitchers’ park.
Career numbers
Home: .225 / .289 / .369
Away: .270 / .318 / .484
Interleague: .276 / .320 / .464

So Greene hits alright with great power against the AL, and he hits okay with great power away from the capacious Petco Park. Bring him to a hitters’ park like Fenway, and he might blossom into a much better hitter. If he can hit .280 / .330 / .450 or better at Fenway, and put up similar road numbers, he’d be a fine addition.

Nabbing Greene might be the best return for Coco, and it might allow us to package Lowrie (who I really like) with others for a top-notch catcher.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 4, 2008 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

What would the Sox really need with the Whitest Man on Earth? (especially one who makes more than Lowrie, and with Lugo’s salary still on the books.)

by morineko on Nov 5, 2008 1:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I like Timlin

As a person, and as a bullpen leader. He’s always reportedly nice to fans and banters with people in the bleachers. I’m sorry to see him go, but I just don’t think he has much mileage left (if any). It’s time.

Coco Crisp for Khalil Greene makes no sense. I think Lowrie will serve us better.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Nov 4, 2008 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

+1

On both.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 4, 2008 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Did Casey ever hit a homer for us?

For some reason, I remembered him as a power bat in Detroit. Oh well.

Oh yeah, and Timlin can come back at a bullpen/bench manager position IMO.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2008 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

And a big

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To Timlin.

Thank God! As for Coco for Khalil, no way. Coco really did well in the playoffs, and Khalil, as much as he would impress the female fans, would not fit in Boston, methinks.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 4, 2008 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

Oh, that's what it was supposed to be?

Greene would “impress female fans?” I didn’t realize that they went for the long blonde hair look. I know a lot of them were “impressed” by Tek and Lowell.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 4, 2008 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Lowell

Lowell’s Martin Scorcese eyebrows probably don’t help.

by Gnick on Nov 4, 2008 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

A little harsh on Timlin, wouldn’t you say BoSox415? Yeah, he had a lousy year, but for most of the past 6 years, he’s been one of the most reliable relievers to ever walk out of a Red Sox bullpen.

by RedSoxSonoma on Nov 4, 2008 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 5, 2008 7:13 AM EST up reply actions  

+1

Timlin’s a great guy, and a big part of the Red Sox organization. I wish he would have retired as a Sox, but that’s not what he wants so best of luck for him.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 5, 2008 11:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I know, but if it weren't for Timlin in 2008

We probably would have won the division, and could have played the Angels in the ALCS….

It was pretty cool, anyway.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 6, 2008 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

That and the one-finger-salute has been dulled.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 7, 2008 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry to anyone who is offended by this.

Take it off if you want, mods.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 9, 2008 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

Boras wants Posada money for Tek.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 4, 2008 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

Haha

Tek won’t get more than two years + an option, and he won’t get more than $8million/year

by Schulz on Nov 4, 2008 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

if Boras gets Posada money for Tek, I’ll jump off a bridge-for real.

by matzushocka45 on Nov 4, 2008 7:50 PM EST reply actions  

If he’s getting Posada money, does that come with Posada injury?

(Jose Molina now!)

by morineko on Nov 5, 2008 1:14 AM EST up reply actions  

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