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Jason Varitek and his agent Scott Boras discuss their negotiating strategy. Image source: Boston Dirt Dogs.

The Red Sox have a problem behind the plate. Jason Varitek, our starting catcher, had a .313 on-base percentage, and only threw out 22.22% of base runners. Our backup, Kevin Cash had a .309 OBP, although he at least played good defense.

As we all know, hitting by Red Sox catchers was very poor this year. Varitek had only two months in which he got on base more than a third of the time. You might argue that catchers across MLB were terrible at hitting and getting on base, and you would be right. Unfortunately, there are some exceptions to this, and we faced two of them in playoffs: the Rays' Dioner Navarro (.349 OBP) and the Angels' Mike Napoli (.374 OBP, 20 HR).

More to the point, the Red Sox are not like most teams. They have a high payroll and the highest ticket prices. It's not unreasonable to expect more than mediocrity from behind the plate.

Randy outlined the available free agent catchers a while back, and they are generally as bad as Tek or worse. So let's take a look at some of the prospects and young players who might be available in trade.

First off, we can surmise that some players won't be discussed. Russell Martin is not available. Matt Wieters, Baltimore's young catcher, should also be off the table - he'll be a centerpiece of their rebuilding process. Geovany Soto just won Rookie of the Year for a contending team, so he's going nowhere. Leaving these people out, there are still some promising hitting catchers out there.

Jeff Clement - Major-league ready for two years, Clement is nonetheless blocked in Seattle by the veteran Japanese catcher Kenji Johjima until 2011. The 25-year-old has scorched in AAA the past two years, hitting .275 / .370 / .497 with 20 HR in 2007 and .335 / .445 / .676 with 14 HR in 2008. He hasn't shown much success in the bigs, as of yet, with a .237 / .309 / .393 line in 219 AB. Clement underwent arthroscopic surgery recently, but he's expected to be 100% by spring training.

J.R. Tolkein Towles - 24 years old, lacks good power, but hits well in the minors. Like Clement, he hasn't found success in the majors just yet (.188 / .288 / .323 in 186 AB). John Sickels compared him favorably with Geovany Soto before the season started, liking Towles' athleticness and potential.

Bryan Anderson - Blocked at C by Yadier Molina, who is signed cheaply through 2011 ($7 million 2012 option). Blocked at 1B by some guy named Albert Pujols. Turns 22 this December. Hits well, gets on base, lacks power. After his promotion to AAA this year, he hit .281 / .367 / .369 in 235 AB.

Jarrod Saltalamacchia / Taylor Teagarden / Max Ramirez - Texas has three catchers who are ready to step in at the major league level. I'm not going to spend much time on them, since we've discussed them elsewhere. Teagarden is the best regarded of the bunch, as he is polished defensively and hit well in his MLB callup (1.205 OPS in 16 games). Ramirez had strikeout issues in AAA and the majors (29.2% K-rate) but had a 1.096 OPS in AA. Salty's defense has been questioned, and he hasn't performed superbly with bat.

Louis Marson - Marson exploded onto the prospect scene with a .849 OPS this year at AA, largely driven by his .433 OBP. He doesn't have great power (.391 career slugging in the minors), but his on-base skills are pretty good (.370 career OBP in the minors). He'll turn 23 next year, and he's in Philadelphia's system. Sickels gives him a C+, and doesn't think too highly of him.

Of these guys, I like Anderson, Salty, and Teagarden the best, but any of the above would be cheaper, and quite likely better, than a full season of Varitek at >$6 million.

What do you think? What is our future at catcher, for 2009 and beyond? Show your essential leadership skills and intangibles: comment below, and answer the poll.

Poll
Who do you like as the 2009 Red Sox catcher?
Jason Varitek.
56 votes
Jeff Clement.
28 votes
Bryan Anderson.
8 votes
Jarrod Saltalamacchia.
117 votes
Taylor Teagarden.
65 votes
Max Ramirez.
2 votes
Louis Marson.
0 votes
J.R. Towles.
1 votes
Holden Caulfield. He's very young, and has great intangibles and a "rye" personality.
18 votes
Someone else (who I will name below in the comments).
10 votes

305 votes | Poll has closed

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At this point, I'd rather see Dusty Brown playing for us than Tek

Tek was bad all around.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 26, 2008 4:09 PM EST   0 recs

Defense and Game Calling

You forgot the most important part about deciding which catcher to have behind the plate, which is most definitely not offense. This is obviously defense and game calling, in no other position is this more important. I can deal with below average offense as long as they call a good game and play good defense.

This is why I voted for other, and my vote goes for Dusty Brown. He may never be en elite hitting catcher but he plays great defense and calls a good game. To me any extra hits you get past that are gravy.

by drabidea on Nov 26, 2008 4:25 PM EST   0 recs

I tried to add a little info on those subjects.

But it’s hard to evaluate minor league catchers. Scouting reports aren’t always available, and I have no idea where to find advanced defensive metrics for catchers in the minors. More to the point, my goal with this piece was to put some names out there, as an introduction, not to conclusively pick out the best of the bunch.

Also, game-calling ability is a largely subjective thing – it’s hard to quantify and discuss. We can use catcher ERA, we can go by the words of scouts, but for young people moving from team to team and staff to staff, it’s difficult to say much conclusively.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 26, 2008 4:35 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

Wasn’t judging, I have looked long and hard for such scouting reports and statistics. Great article though, everyone you mentioned is a feasible option. CERA isn’t a great stat either, its a start but definitely flawed.

by drabidea on Nov 26, 2008 4:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Bryan Anderson FTW!

I’m intrigued by the Dusty Brown idea, but the fact that Kottaras got an end-of-the-year callup and Brown didn’t makes me think the FO wouldn’t do it.

I suppose it’s possible they did it for evaluation purposes, since Kottaras has to be cut or stay in the bigs next season, but I can’t imagine (beyond whether he could hit ML pitching) what they were going to learn that they didn’t already know.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 26, 2008 4:28 PM EST   0 recs

I thought about that too

However, I know Brown caught Zink, so he may be able to catch Wake (if the Sox want to cut Cash loose). Brown is also a much better defensive catcher than Kottaras. The Sox may have been evaluating him. Or, they may rate Kottaras ahead of Brown.

Here’s Jim Callis of Baseball America’s take on Kottaras (from today’s ESPN chat):

Otto (CA): Where do you got George Kottars playing on opening day? He don’t have any options left.

Jim Callis: He might be the backup in Boston, but no way he’s the starter and he might be a more likely candidate for the waiver wire. He’s an OK prospect, but he didn’t make the Red Sox Top 30 I wrote.

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 26, 2008 5:58 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

ABT...

Anyone But Tek. Yeah, I know I’m a broken record here, but you can almost live with the carcassness at the plate. It’s the total lack of ability now to throw out runners that I just can’t live with any longer; AND he doesn’t even catch Wake…

by sydneysox on Nov 26, 2008 5:41 PM EST   0 recs

Shoppach

I am guessing the Sox will trade for Shoppach if Varitek’s negotiations fall through. Shoppach knows the system, probably has caught some for the Sox pitchers coming up through the minors.. Shoppach is someone that I doubt the Sox have forgotten about, and he will be a starter, compare to being at Cleveland, given that Victor Martinez is the anchor of the franchise

by superferret on Nov 26, 2008 6:01 PM EST   0 recs

I could live with that.

What does Cleveland need? Who do you give up?

by sydneysox on Nov 26, 2008 6:12 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Forget about it

It’s likely that every talks begins and ends with Clay Buchholz. And the Sox shouldn’t give up on him for anyone not named Brian McCann, Joe Mauer or Matt Wieters, who are not going to get traded anytime too soon now.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 26, 2008 6:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Rangers want Buchholz in any trade talk..

Buchholz is going to be lean on in any trade talks. Personally, I think Buchholz has some mechanics issues, he needs to iron out… He is pitching in Arizona right now..

 Young pitchers either at the MLB minimum with enormous potential are always going to be drool cup material for weak pitching teams like Texas

by superferret on Nov 26, 2008 8:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Yeah...

The nightmare of being a contender with a strong farm system is that every time you want to trade, the other team goes crazy with demands. Was it ’05 when every team we tried to orchestrate a trade with wanted Delcarmen, Lester and Pedroia?

I don’t think Buchholz is untradeable per se, but I do think if the Rangers insist, then its Teagarden or no thanks (based on the oh-so-scientific “everybody seems to like Teagarden best” metric).

Happy Thanksgiving…

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by nuthinboutnuthin on Nov 26, 2008 11:42 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Happy thanksgiving to you too, and to everyone here at OTM

Sad thing is that we do not have thanksgiving where I live. :(

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 27, 2008 11:04 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Where is that?

Are you talking household or country?

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Nov 27, 2008 11:16 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Country

Argentina.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 27, 2008 12:46 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

we too

here in Tunisia, Yes the Res sox nation reach out even to Tunisia!
Happy thanksgiving to y’all!

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Nov 27, 2008 1:05 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

turkey Day

Sydney, Australia says happy turkey day also!!

Though Tunisia, that’s impressive mate. Are you using like one of the only 4 computers there ;-)

by sydneysox on Nov 27, 2008 8:26 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I would deal...

…Buchholz in a second for Russell Martin. I know everyone is still giddy about this kid, but think about what the Sox could of gotten if this kid turns out to be nothing but hype.

To me, Masterson is untradeable, mainly bc he has proven he can handle big games and I just like his toughness. Stuff aside, I think Masterson is the gem of the current crop of MLB-almost ready/rookie pitchers. Buchholz has shown he can throw a no-hitter v. a below average team, party all night and bang Penthouse Pets…thats great and admirable, I just do not want him in the rotation.

Yes, I know I am the “Trade Buchholz Now” guy, but seriously, if someone good is available (not necessarily the young catching prospects in Texas), I say we move this guy before his stock drops like Homer Bailey. 1 more bad year and people wont even ask about him.

As for Texas let them sit and stew, who cares how many prospects they have. 1) prospects are prospects and 2 ) pitching > catching, so who cares. The Sox can do just fine with a FA in 09. Texas will still suck without pitching. Sox have the advantage.

by SoxAcumen on Nov 27, 2008 9:40 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I think all of us would trade Bucholz for Russel Martin. As for Masterson, if you project him to be a starting pitcher, and a good one, then maybe hes untouchable. But if the Sox thinks hes gonna be a bullpen pitcher for his career, he doesn’t have nearly the value. I say trade Masterson for one of the Texas guys and get it over with.

by BTLove on Nov 28, 2008 6:24 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Cleveland

has stated they want a “Closer” type relief pitcher for Shoppach.

by SoxAcumen on Nov 26, 2008 7:04 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Could you give a link?

Not that I don’t trust you, but I’d like to see it for myself.

I think in the next year or two, Martinez will be Cleveland’s every day 1B, and Shoppach becomes their catcher for the next 4+ years. Because of that, they will probably demand a lot for him, as trading him would leave a big hole at C once Martinez is no longer able to play there.

by Schulz on Dec 1, 2008 4:02 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

They have Carlos Santana in AA

That’s who they stole from the Dodgers in exchange for Casey Blake. He looks to be a pretty good catching prospect, at least offensively.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Dec 1, 2008 5:49 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Miguel Montero

What about the D-backs catcher? I mean the guy is (almost) a proven commodity, and I hear talks that Arizona FO want to explore the trade talks! So why not?

The only Red Sox fan in a country where nobody cares about basball!

by radiohix on Nov 27, 2008 9:46 AM EST   0 recs

We offered Tek arbitration.

See FanShot for more info.
/self whoring

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 1, 2008 9:39 PM EST   0 recs

Kottaras/Brown Platoon

I am just throwing this out there. Kottaras has alot of experience catching the knuckle, and someone else mentioned that Brown has caught Zink in the past (reference?). Sounds like one of them should hopefully be able to catch Wake.

Kottaras hits lefty, Brown righty. If we are playing a team that runs alot put in Brown who has an exceptionally strong arm. What do you think?

by drabidea on Dec 3, 2008 11:21 AM EST   0 recs

Too easy to game plan for.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 3, 2008 4:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

What you mean? that teams would alter their game plan to prevent one of George Kottaras or Dusty Brown from beating them? Doubtful.

by BTLove on Dec 4, 2008 8:43 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Teams alter their game plan for any different player.

Even the smallest bit. If we pinch hit Kottaras for Brown, they would start using a different offense.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 4, 2008 8:52 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

I guess what I mean is,

no team would choose their starting pitcher based on our catchers. Maybe they would run more/less because of which is starting, but I think both are better than Varitek at throwing out runners.

by BTLove on Dec 4, 2008 9:01 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

It seems very doubtful.

by drabidea on Dec 5, 2008 8:53 AM EST to parent up   0 recs

Gameplanning means more than just which pitcher to start.

But would they struggle to hit our pitchers like they do with Tek back there? Keep Tek and let him tutor the next catcher of the Boston Red Sox, so that teams will continue to struggle against us.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Dec 5, 2008 6:54 PM EST to parent up   0 recs

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