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What is your 2009 Red Sox team?

Predictions:

 

 

1. Josh Beckett

2. Jon Lester

3. Daisuke Matsuzaka

4. Justin Masterson

5. Tim Wakefield

 

1. Jacoby Ellsbury

2. Dustin Pedroia

3. Mark Teixeira

4. David Ortiz

5. Kevin Youkilis

6. Jason Bay

7. JD Drew

8. Jason Varitek & Saltalamacchia/Teagarden (Platoon)

9. Jed Lowrie

 

CL- Papelbon

SU- Okajima

SU- Ramirez

MR- Delcarmen

What do you guys think? Theo has already hinted that Masterson could be moved to the rotation. Link:

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081119&content_id=3684498&vkey=hotstove2008&fext=.jsp

 

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One more FA signing, most likely a SP.

Keep Masterson and his odd delivery in the pen. Theo might be saying stuff to screw with other GMs.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 19, 2008 9:30 PM EST reply actions  

What if we sign a RP...

Say Kerry Wood and move Masterson to the SP…

~ ROLL TIDE ~

GO SOX!!

by Bama Sox on Nov 19, 2008 11:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Wood wants closer $$

and he"ll get it.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 20, 2008 10:05 AM EST up reply actions  

HAHAHA.

Rec’d, for sure.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 20, 2008 7:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Ouch

Rec’d indeed.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 20, 2008 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Again...

His pitching style is much better suited for the pen.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 20, 2008 6:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I predict Wakefield will not make it through the season even

if he is there to start. The question is can the great damage potentially done against him and the team at the start be minimized enought o save a season. Wouldn’t it just be better to let him go now????

by NG on Nov 20, 2008 8:16 AM EST reply actions  

You don't just let a guy like Wake go

He’s a great (and cheap) guy to have around. He may not crack the starting rotation if we get Burnett and Masterson moves into a starting role, but he’s a guy who can eat some innings and still has the stuff to win games. He could be a great 6th starter in case someone goes down or he could go out and throw 5-6 innings in relief if someone struggles to start the game.

Man do I hate Longhorn fans, well except for the ones that actually went there.

by mystman995 on Nov 20, 2008 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Dude.

$4mil. That’s like paying the security guards at a company $5,000 a year.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 20, 2008 6:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Money is NOT my main point here!

What good is he if you can never trust him to be effective?

by NG on Nov 20, 2008 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

i thought

they digged the shocker.

by Chow Time on Nov 20, 2008 8:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Hey, minors, dude.

Be careful.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 20, 2008 8:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahahahaha

Well played, sir.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Nov 21, 2008 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

I can always trust Wake.

It’s you that has trust issues. Maybe you need to do the fall-and-catch drill.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 20, 2008 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Nov 21, 2008 12:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Rotation

I think it’s more likely for us to see Lowe or Burnett in the rotation rather than Masterson. Personally i’d sign Texeira, trade Bowden for Salty (if possible), then let Clay be the 5th starter.

by Gnick on Nov 20, 2008 7:10 PM EST reply actions  

Yes...

Reverse the pitchers though, and for a better C option.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 20, 2008 7:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Reverse the pitchers?

You mean you think we should trade Buch and put Bowden in the rotation? Has everyone forgotten how highly touted Buchholz was just one year ago. Its not as if all his talent has somehow gone away. No more than a year ago everyone was projecting him to be an ace someday, and now people are acting like he’s worthless.

by Gnick on Nov 20, 2008 8:56 PM EST up reply actions  

PECOTA and Buchholz
Has everyone forgotten how highly touted Buchholz was just one year ago?

Though Buchholz gave up way too many runs (and wayyy too many home runs, at a rate of one every seven innings), his numbers may not be as bad as they appeared, and hopefully we will see a regression to the mean next season. For one thing, his strikeout total remained stable (actually, it exceeded his PECOTA projection by about one K/inning). For another, his Delta-H, a statistic that tries to measure the effect of BABIP on pitchers, was a whopping 15 (14th highest in the majors), which means that the added three hits per nine innings, while troubling high, shouldn’t continue into 2009.

From “Peter’s Red Sox Forever,” an MLB scout watching Buchholz in Arizona has this to say about the future star:

"I think he’s gained some of his swagger back. He lost some confidence during the year, but his velocity was back. He was throwing 91-95, and was free and easy. He had a dominant curveball and a plus change. He didn’t need his slider. He looked focused on the mound. It looked to me like his arm slot was the same as it used to be, with a high three-quarters release, which adds to the depth of his breaking ball. This guy has three plus pitches and should be a front-of-the-rotation starter. His ceiling is very high."

The basic fact is that Clay Buchholz is a 23-year-old stud, who let too many games get away from him in the most competitive division in baseball. Be patient with the kid and hope we can trade for quality catching with the likes of Bowden and Masterson.

Straight outta HP. Go MDC!!!
http://soxcentury.blogspot.com

by alfonzo on Nov 21, 2008 1:19 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

I just have this bad feeling about him.

Not sure what it is, he just doesn’t seem to have the moxie to be a MLB level starter.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 21, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

My 25 player roster

SP:
Beckett
Lester
Dice-K
Kenshin Kawakami
Wakefield

Lineup:
Drew RF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Teixeira 1B
Bay LF
Youk 3B
Lowrie SS
Tek C
Ellsbury CF

Bench:
IF Jerry Hairston
1B Jeff Bailey
OF Rocco Baldelli
C Kevin Cash
LF/1B Paul McAnulty

RP:
CL Papelbon
SU Masterson
SU Ramirez
Oki
Delcarmen
Lopez

by drabidea on Nov 21, 2008 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

Where'd Lowell go?

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 21, 2008 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not entirely opposed to Hairston

As an option for a utility position, but we probably need someone who’s more than an emergency option for the SS position. I wouldn’t actually mind Nick Punto, if the rest of MLB ends up smart enough to not give him a starting job anywhere.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Nov 21, 2008 5:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd rather carry 12 pitchers

But if we sign Rocco, we might need the bigger bench

by BTLove on Nov 21, 2008 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Roster Revision

SP:
Beckett
Lester
Dice-K
Schilling (Yeah that’s right, I said it)
Wakefield

Lineup:
Same

Bench:
IF Punto or Cintron or Bloomquist
1B Chris Carter
OF Rocco Baldelli
C George Kottaras

RP:
CL Papelbon
SU Masterson
SU Oki
Ramirez
Delcarmen
Lopez
Aardsma

Feel free to agree or criticize.

by drabidea on Nov 26, 2008 3:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I predict:

The Sox will make a good effort to sign Tex, but in the end he will go to LAA.

Lineup:
1. Elssbury CF
2. Pedroia 2B
3. Ortiz DH
4. Youk 1B
5. Bay LF
6. Drew RF
7. Lowell 3B
8. Tek/Salty (platoon) C
9. Lowrie

Rotation:
1. Beckett
2. Lester
3. Dice-k
4. Derek Lowe (Kawakami could happen too)
5. Wakefield
6. Buccholz, Bowden, Masterson

BP:
Papelbon CL
Masterson SU (or long relief)
Oki SU
Ramirez SU/7th
Delcarmen 7th/6th
Lopez Loogy

by Schulz on Nov 21, 2008 3:45 PM EST reply actions  

6 man rotation?

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 21, 2008 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Re

Whenever i think about a rotation, I consider the guys who will be stepping in when the inevitable injury or ineffectiveness occurs. I’m not actually suggesting that the starting pitchers go every 6 days in stead of every 5.

by Schulz on Nov 21, 2008 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 21, 2008 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Salty, Masterson, Buccholz, and Bowden

all on the same team?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Nov 21, 2008 7:18 PM EST up reply actions  

True

Masterson or Bowden will probably be gone.

by Schulz on Nov 22, 2008 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

How would you feel if...

…Boston traded Buccholz for Salty’ + an Engel Beltre (high ceiling/A ball) type prospect?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Nov 23, 2008 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

You mean the Beltre we traded for Gagne?

Not good. If we trade Buch, I want Teagarden.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Nov 24, 2008 12:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

Or Salty and another high prospect in AA+ ball.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 24, 2008 4:47 PM EST up reply actions  

So you would do

Tea for Bucch, straight up?

"My mother always taught me that if the only thing you have to say is,
‘(Expletive) Dave Samson,’ then don’t say anything at all.
So I’m not going to say anything at all.
Is my mother the greatest or what?"
- Mariners GM Bill Bavasi, after signing Ichiro to a $90 million contract

by octoberty on Nov 24, 2008 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah.

I’m a non-believer in Buch.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 24, 2008 5:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I probably would

If Buccholz does work out, the Rangers have one quality pitcher, and the Sox still have a great rotation with more prospects coming over the next few years.

by Schulz on Nov 24, 2008 8:45 PM EST up reply actions  

That would be a terrible

underselling of Buchholz.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Nov 25, 2008 4:34 AM EST up reply actions  

As you can see, a small difference of opinion.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 26, 2008 12:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't even noticed that.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 22, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Ellsbury
Pedroia
Tex
Ortiz
Youk
Bay
Drew
Lowrie
Varitek

Bench:

Salty
C.Carter
Baldelli
Cora on (short term-deal)

Beckett
Lester
Dice-K
Wakefield
Sheets

Masterson
Ramirez
Oki-Doki
Lopez
Aardsma
Delcarmen
Papelbon

by matzushocka45 on Nov 21, 2008 6:40 PM EST reply actions  

It'd help him develop his skills.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bdalebs on Nov 22, 2008 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember Josh Bard...

You can’t assume a young catcher with weak defensive skills will be able to catch Wakefield competently… nor can you guarantee that someone with highly-touted defensive skills like Teagarden can deal with Wake’s knuckler. This is why I think it’s finally time to make Wakefield a reliever/spot starter. With the number of MLB-ready starting pitcher prospects we have, combined with the free-agent market, we could easily fill five spots with some leeway. And we wouldn’t have to continue making terrible trades to have backup catching prospects that can catch an aging knuckleballer (think Josh Bard and Clay Meredith for Doug Mirabelli).

Then again, if we let Tek go altogether, our starting catcher could be Salty, and our backup could be someone who can deal with the knuckler…

Straight outta HP. Go MDC!!!
http://soxcentury.blogspot.com

by alfonzo on Nov 23, 2008 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

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