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A World Series Pattern

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I'm noticing a pattern in World Series victories.

2003 Yankees vs. Florida Marlins - Marlins win (NL)
2004 Red Sox vs. St. Louis Cardinals - Red Sox win (AL)
2005 White Sox vs. Houston Astros - White Sox win (AL)
2006 Detroit Tigers vs. Cardinals - Cardinals win (NL)
2007 Red Sox vs. Colorado Guys blessed by god Rockies - Red Sox win (AL)
2008 Rays vs. Phillies - Phillies win (NL)

Do you see it? Look closely. Give it a minute. Squinch your eyes up, and look for the sailboat, I mean pattern. Have you found it?

Alright here goes. When the American League is represented by Sox, White or Red, it wins. When the American League is represented by someone else, the National League team is victorious.

Given this conclusive and indisputable evidence, an immediate solution presents itself: the rest of the league should collude to ensure that a Sox team makes the World Series. To do otherwise is to allow the dreaded prospect of National League Victory. And that, frankly, is un-American. Or at least, un-American League.

To be serious for two sentences, Congratulations to the Phillies and their fans! Your team played well and knocked off a tough foe. Granted, that the clock struck midnight and B.J. Upton, Carlos Pena, and Evan Longoria all turned into pumpkins undoubtedly helped (a combined 8 for 57 in the series, with 1 extra-base hit). Such things happen to Cinderella teams, though.

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Who SHOULD have won the World Series?
The Boston Red Sox.
80 votes
The Boston Red Sox.
39 votes
The Boston Red Sox.
29 votes

148 votes | Poll has closed

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Know Your Enemy: Tampa Bay Rays

Apr 2009 by 0157H7 - 13 comments

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Red Sox will win it next season

Who gives a fuck about 2008? 2009 is much sexier…

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 29, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know we would have taken down the Phillies.

Might’ve lost the Hamels starts, but everything else we would’ve won. That’s why I’m still writing about it.

And we need to make some acquisitions for 2009 to be sexy. I mean just because 2009’s playing hard to get, doesn’t make it sexy. It needs to put out more, not be so shy. One thing the Sox could do is pick up a hot Brunette Burnett.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 29, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like everyone would lose every

Hamels start, every time I see him pitch. The Phillies should just lock him up forever. 50-year deal.

Yes, I officially have a mancrush.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 29, 2008 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamels is the 4th best pitcher in the MLB

Right behind Santana, Halladay and Lincecum.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 30, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More to prove.

A couple years like this one (or better that it) and he’ll be on the same page.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 30, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Lester and Danks are both close to be on top, but need more time to get it.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 30, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With less playoff explosions at Fenway? Sure.

Let’s have him explode once per year in April or May. NOT IN OCTOBER.

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a fun game.

I wish every game not played by the Red Sox was three innings and lasted for an hour.

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Oct 30, 2008 12:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wiffleball?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am happy for the Phillies

I just could not watch the off season if the Rays won. Anyone else hate this team?

We subsidize the Rays and they beat us and act like punks.

When Tampa actually pays someone I might want them to win.

Good for the Phillies. Congrats. Rays you are just another in a long line of teams no one will ever care about…except when people talk about the Red Sox coming back from 7 down in game 5.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 30, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Parity?

Oh fuck no! That’s a terrible idea!

http://inplaynoouts.blogspot.com/ - A blog about teams I like, written by me.

by Carl Johnson on Oct 30, 2008 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ahem...
Anyone else hate this team?

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by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying you were drawing [sorry for the pun] attention to yourself.

I’ve been on record about the Rays, more specifically their fans, for a while now.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very happy for the Phillies.

I was getting fed up with Red Sox fan support for the Rays. They’re our main division rivals! They knocked us out of the post-season! I’m glad we don’t have to listen to the fairytale worst-to-first encomia any more.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Oct 30, 2008 4:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+10.

+1 because I agree with you and +9 because you used “encomia.” The Rays losing the series ignominiously should cut down on the number of post-season panegyrics we hear.

I was happy to root for the Rays until people from draysbay started trolling over here, and even their more reasonable people started trash-talking. It wasn’t as bad as the flak from HH (what is?) but I didn’t like their entitled attitude.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 30, 2008 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like that word too.

Lots of new vocab today. HH = Habitual Hell

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ooh.

I like that word. Do you use stadia to describe more than one stadium? Technically correct as well.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.

by Drugs Delaney on Oct 30, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Morning All!

I am super excited that the Phillies won —super excited the Rays lost too!!

I too am tied of the Rays story – just as I tired of the Rockies story last season.
I know Sox fans who were rooting for the Rays & I did not get that at all. Glad its over & ended as it did.

"You know," Girardi said, shrugging his shoulders, "it didn't work."

( Joe Girardi on pitching to Manny Ramirez with first base open)

by MassGal on Oct 30, 2008 6:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How long did it take you to grow tired of them?

Try living in South Florida, where the media jumps on them like fleas on a dog if they’re winning by the end of July.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's official

Rays fans are the new Cubs fans. They wanna trade E-Jax and some other lowly prospects for Hunter effing Pence. E-Jax. God help us…

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 30, 2008 11:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

.......

Slightly below league-average AL starter for a guy whose power numbers are probably inflated due to the Crawford Boxes and who acts like a character from a Katherine Kerr novel crossed with a hyperactive golden retriever. (I see a lot of Pence due to the Brewers playing in the NL Central and I’m not quite seeing what his deal is yet, other than being ridiculously annoying—but that doesn’t mean he’s worth Edwin Jackson either.)

Ah, heck, the Rays bandwagon probably think that they won the McClung-Balfour trade. Balfour is turning into a pumpkin—he’s only got one pitch and everyone knows it, and he’s over 30—and McClung finally turned into what he is, which is…a league-average NL starter with the added bonus of occasionally smacking bloop singles off of lefty pitching. But at least the Brewers got what it said on the tin. Isn’t there a reason nobody picked up Balfour when he got DFAed in March?

by morineko on Oct 31, 2008 2:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Balfour come back to Earth really quick next season

I just don’t like that guy. Tampa bullpen is not nearly as strong as it was this season. I like JP, and that’s it. I think they’ll move E-Jax to the pen, where he can suck less than he does as a starter. But even so, it will not be as good as it was this season.

E-Jax has a, like, 3.921 career WHIP and likes to give up homers to fat pitchers. He’s not worth anything good. Pence is young, had a good first season, and I think will be a stud with some time. I hope he gets traded because I strongly dislike the Astros. Not to Tampa, however.

McClung is a funny dude. I never saw him pitching enough to tell if he’s good or not, but he’s a funny dude.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 31, 2008 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you can't get something for nothing, even when the something is v.v. small

Pence is the sort of guy you’d expect TB to deal for. (Immature and not quite up to potential yet…excuse me, did i just type that?) I he does pan out, it’s going to be incredible, but I’m not sure if his stuff would really work outside of Houston. I’d have to check out park factors, etc, which I’m not going to do at 2 AM.

I’m not surprised that people want to deal Jackson ASAP. He’s got that straight as a string fastball that only works for so long and then everyone and their cat starts hitting it out of the park.

Balfour—I dunno, there’s something about his pitching that reminds me of Derrick Turnbow. Speaking of guys who turned into pumpkins and quick-like. All the 102mph fastballs in the world can’t help you if they’re clothesline-straight (see above) or nowhere near any conception of the strike zone.

I like McClung to the point of ridiculousness, but I seriously don’t think he’ll ever be anything more than a #4 starter (if he remains a starter) and he’s never going to be the Game Over guy in the bullpen. They have value too. Just not the kind of value you trade straight up for Hunter Pence. He is, as you said, a really funny guy, though. If you want a show, just turn your binoculars on the bullpen when he’s in it….

by morineko on Oct 31, 2008 2:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahahaha, I like McClung as well

I usually like the 4th-5th starter kind of pitcher, like McClung, Blackburn and Sonnanstine. But I think he should have just as much value as E-Jax. He’s not a very good pitcher, I’m not sure about him eating innings as well, and there shouldn’t be value there. But there is. After Carlos Silva and Barry Zito, it seems that every cheap pitcher is valuable.

Pence is not in the same league as Braun or Fielder, but he’s a very nice guy to have on your line-up. Those are harder to find than 5th starters.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 31, 2008 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tampa players are likeable enough...

It’s their fan base that sucks balls! They were the biggest bunch of douche bags I’ve encountered in a long time. People say that Red Sox fans are bad? I was probably hit by 5 empty cups, 120 peanuts, and $30.00 worth of beer at game 1 of the ALCS. And that was just for cheering while wearing a Red Sox jersey! I probably would have been stabbed had I been even the slightest bit obnoxious. Then there were the standard death threats and comments regarding mothers while walking to and from the games. Who would have thought a group of people watching baseball for 3 months could harbor such hostility toward the opposing teams fans?

Way to put those “fans” back in their place Philly!

by A2004LoveAffair on Oct 30, 2008 12:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Their game-threads are full of gross slurs and boiling negativity, and i was banned in a thread for popping in and simply uttering “bye rays”.

by spinz on Oct 30, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Try getting banned 5 times.

Latest for being tired and confusing a Wizard of Oz quote with Scooby Doo. I’m thinking someone slipped me something that day.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, yeah

Jonny Gomes is a real sweetheart.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 31, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said "Players"...

Not a bench warming thug. He’s like the coaches son that just sits there and pisses everyone off!

by A2004LoveAffair on Oct 31, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With a Mr.T inspired hawk/beard configuration.


“No pictures, FOOL!!!”

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 1, 2008 11:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like how the vote is almost even, considering votes that went to the first just because it was easiest.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 5:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

first of all

Peavy and Webb both need to be in any discussion involving top 5 or 6 starters in MLB….

Secondly Tampa went effing nuts against us hit like 18 homers…and still barely squeeked past us in 7 with at least a 3rd of our order being sh*t. And I’m still smarting about game 2, still ropeable, but anyway those are my issues.

And the last point is we would have smoked Philly in 5 max. They would’ve been absolutely sh*tting themselves if we had pulled off ANOTHER comeback.

by sydneysox on Oct 30, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

16 actually, and they only hit .252 against us.

It was on ESPNEWS this morning. I noticed it when I was getting ready for school. They hit like .297 vs. the other Sox, with way less homers.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 30, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

o.k..

.252 ain’t much, but everytime they got on, they threatened to run and the only guy carcassTek threw out was the catcher, so every hit seemed like a homer or a double. If you take steals into account and add it to their slugging, it was like Adam Dunn was up every time.

16 HR’s is a bucketload and the fact we couldn’t get to Garza is how they won the series against us.
Also we 3 automatic outs in our lineup we had basically 6 innings of hitting every game.

Still and all we almost won and it was a good effort. I’d love to see Buchholz get his act together in spring training and become a solid 4th starter…

by sydneysox on Oct 30, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pay no attention to the Tampa Bay Rays of the fans in Tampa

Most of the trash down there have no roots, so you cannot expect many quality people in that area. MLB is really putting the heat on the organization to get a new stadium, and the city of Tampa and St. Pete want nothing to do with building a new place. The team is going to get re-located somewhere, possibly even Orlando, as they haved had one series there the last two seasons. Tampa cannot and will not suport MLB, so the team will be elsewhere in the next decade. It’s a trashy place, weather isn’t everything I tell ya.

The Rays themselves will not suprise or sneak up on anyone next season. This was the year they had to win, and they failed. I don’t subscribe to the theory they will be “in the mix” every season for a long time. I heard the same crap about the Tigers in 2006. You never know what can happen, and you have to take advantage of the time you are in the WS, and playoffs-the Rays did not. They blew it. I don’t see the guys they have in the bullpen having the same kinds of seasons next year as 2008.

They beat a Red Sox team that was held together with super glue and duct tape. Beating Timlin and Wakefield. (kudos to them on the 2 games they beat Lester though) I’m not impressed until they do it more than one year.

by matzushocka45 on Oct 30, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From the poll, it looked like it was written by bubbaboy5

This just wasn’t our year. Injuries killed us, but we showed grit. I hate how the Rays fans think they are better than us because they beat us in an off year, for the first time in 11 seasons. I can’t wait for the year when they lose due to injuries, oh yeah….

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Nov 1, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

A couple of the fans are building conspiracy theories about the weather.

VERY STUPID FANS. At least they have a few smart fans to help balance out.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 1, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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