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As with the Red Sox, it is rebuilding mode for Over The Monster as well.

We have a very interesting offseason coming up: Has E-Coli overperformed in a contract year? What kind of money does he expect out of OTM management? Is he over-rated/under-rated? And Allen Chace, once again, is complaining about the commute. Is it time to put up or shut up? He had a good season, but can OTM find better value elsewhere?

And of course, that Randy guy. Pretty solid. Wears the "C." A Boston heartthrob. He's here for good.

Ok, now I'm being serious (except that Boston heartthrob part -- that's true). With the off-season coming up and after a raucous season of baseball, how did we at Over The Monster do for you, the readers? We are always looking to improve the best Red Sox blog, but we can only do it with reader input. Did the open threads suck? Did the game recaps rock? Did you want more insight/analysis? Are numbers more your thing? Do you like long walks on the beach?

Whatever it is, let us know. Leave a comment in this thread or feel free to e-mail me at rbooth AT overthemonster DOT com.

So let us know. Just like any good baseball team, we're trying to fill the holes in the offseason, but you need to let us know what they are.

Thanks a lot!

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Ecoli

performed the amazing task of being both under and over rated.

To me, that’s worth a heckuva raise.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 21, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More substantive comments and less attacks on individuals!

I think the dialogue here could be vastly improved by encouraging more discussion of the issues brought up by writers and less personal attacks on/at the writers. If you have something to say about an issue, by all means say it. However, if all you can do is attack the writer because you disagree with him/her, well that leads to less contributions from intimidated potential writers and also leads to less specific discussions of the issues and more emotional drivel, IMO!

by NG on Oct 21, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NG

I hate to call you a name in response, but I think it’s fair to say that you have a tendency to go “Chicken little” on everything. It tends to get kind of annoying and predictable. If you also posted when things were going well, about things going well, you’d probably find people less frustrated with you. That being said, I’ve not really seen you be disrespectful towards anyone, and that’s really what we (should all) be against around here.

And that being said, let this be an opportunity to give fair warning to everyone. Personal attacks are not what we’re looking for around here (unless they’re directed towards A-Rod or the rev). If you feel you’ve been personally attacked, and let’s not get out of hand here, but you do have the option of "flag"ing comments. Use it, and let us mods handle the situation. Don’t turn it into a name-calling thing back and forth.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But there is no requirement to be balanced, only somewhat accurate.

I admit that I am a fair-weather fan, and I use this site to let off steam when I see the Sox tending to revert back to the Ole-days of perennial crap! I enjoy watching a winning team whose objectives are to win going forward, and I get angry when I do not see this happening. If the sox are doing well, that speaks for itself. Maybe you need to jump up and down when they do well, but I am pleased just with the doing well part. However, when they do poorly and many blinded fans make excuses for them, well I do not! I call it like I see it when I have been watching the team closely, and if you disagree with what I say, just write why. That is enough of a response. You (you pleural) show your blindness or your own insecurities if attacking me is your main defense against what I have tried to write objectively!

by NG on Oct 22, 2008 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NG is an important demographic

He represents the latent neurosis inherent with being an olde tyme Red Sox fan. NG often presents relevant facts and points for discussion, even if the delivery is a bit over the top. I don’t find anything wrong with his posts, and enjoy the discussion.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was speaking figuratively — baseball terms, actually.

by Randy Booth on Oct 21, 2008 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't listen to Randy.

I didn’t read the fine print: I’m currently locked into an 8-year deal for a grand total of 4 tacos.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*Sniff*

Hrmph! I didn’t even get a mention.

I was a giant slacker this year when it came to writing the main stories—getting married, a condo, and a dog all in the same year kills your free time—however I like to think that I added to the level of discourse.

I’m not even taco-arbitration eligible; not enough SAs (story appearances).

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Shhhh! You’re the sleeper! No one is supposed to know about you until we pinch-hit with you in the bottom of the 13th….

by Randy Booth on Oct 22, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess I’ll go hang out with Mike Timlin for a little while, then. He doesn’t have anything to do either.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 22, 2008 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BEST SITE ON SBN

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Oct 21, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

One of my favorite sites

You guys do a great job.

My only suggestion is maybe add someone to post about minor league players so that people who do not have the time can get updates on some of the players in the Sox organization so when they do get their big league shot everyone is familiar with the young players.

and

Maybe a few more posts about Red Sox rumors, trades, FAs stuff like that.

All in all this is a great site though. You allow people to make asses of themselves, =), and also have constructive debates.

Best of luck in the future.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 21, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love when team sites cover all the team-related news

it can be as easy as readers posting fanshots to headlines at mainstream media sites and moving the more important ones to the front page.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 22, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We'll have plenty of stuff on Winter

things like rumors, trades, etc.

w/r/t Minor league stuff, I’ll take at least some of the hit on that. I remember doing some updates during the season on some of our top prospects, and I just fizzled out on those. Not really through lack of interest, but time constraints. Assuming, most likely, that I’m still around next spring/summer, I don’t forsee that being an issue. You’re absolutely right, though, that we had a lack of MiL content.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rumors

Here’s a rumor update for you, courtesy of today’s Boston Globe:

The Red Sox need a bat. And a big one. According to a team source, the Red Sox already have had some internal discussion about free-agent-to-be Mark Teixeira, the most desirable hitter available on the open market and a player for which the bidding will be fierce. Coupled with the strength of Boston’s player development system, the real benefit of Manny Ramirez’s departure is that the Red Sox will have a truckload of money to spend this winter. All signs point to a spirited run at Teixeira, a switch-hitting, slugging first baseman with the good defensive skills, exceptional baseball acumen, and the kind of discretionary plate discipline that Sox officials so covet. The obvious question is where they will put him.

Boston Globe

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My homepage.

And my homie.

I now feel like a better Red Sox fan, somewhere I can be where I do not bore people to death with how JD Drew is on fire or Lugo is on the DL. Somewhere where I feel accepted!

Too deep?

Thank you OTM. I love the recaps, no offense Randy or Allen, but I LOOOOOVE the recaps 0157H7 does. Hilarioty. I think we can all agree.

Random stat of the day: Pedroia is making a fiftieth of what A-Rod makes, and is likely to win MVP.

Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!

by BoSox415 on Oct 21, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I can delete that, if you want.

I’m not wild about it being up there, to be honest. Could scare children.

That being said, not exactly “offensive”, so don’t want to do it unless you want me to.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DO IT.

I was going to post a pic of Hillary from Fresh Prince, but I found that pic first. Didn’t think to check the size before posting it.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 22, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why did you post

That horrible picture. I don’t know if that is human but if it is, it is sure ugly and would lead a man to cheat with other ugly beings.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Oct 21, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Billary got split up?!?!?!

Since when?

They’ve never really shown it since he left office.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 22, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can all agree.

Ecoli is the hilarious. Ecoli is what hilarious aspires to be when it wakes up in the morning.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys are great

Not just you 3, but everyone who posts here. It’s a great community.

Mother---- him and John Wayne!

by MerryGoByeBye on Oct 21, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've got nothing constructive.

Not exactly sure how to improve things, absent getting someone a press card.

I really liked what you did in the playoffs, having Q&A with other blog hosts. Notwithstanding the Rev’s douchebaggery, it was interesting to get other fanbase’s perspectives on their own guys and on ours.

Maybe something along the lines of a Q&A with some well-known scribes? Rob Bradford, Amelie Benjamin, Mazz, etc? That could be interesting, and maybe could drive up traffic. Hell, tell Gammons that you work for Kos and even he might show up…

Manny ain't the only bad man.

by tommy.otm on Oct 21, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Tuesday, October 21
Boston, MA – Renowned agent Scott Boras has agreed to represent blogger 0157H7 (“E.Coli”) in his contract negotiations with OvertheMonster.com, the top Red Sox fan website.

“It’s an honor to represent such a classy, franchise blogger,” Boras said from a local bank, as he adjusted his ski-mask and stuffed twenties into his briefcase. “The Scott Boras corporation is always looking for new clients, and new ways to generate revenue.”

Interviewed several hours later, Mr. Boras described his new client’s value to the website.

“E.Coli combines an Adonis-like avatar with a Shakespearean sagacity,” Boras said, reading from his 90-page brief on the client. “Who else would, for example, post a retrospective analysis on Alex Cora, replete with zone ratings and fielding metrics, and end it with a series of Pig Latin knock-knock jokes?”

E.Coli’s current contract, which is set to expire in January, pays him the SBN minimum, plus a pro-rated 1,000 pounds of high-grade spam. His contract also provides travel, dental, a translator, and unlimited writing of bad polls.

OTM acquired E.Coli from a Japanese shipping company in 2006. They received $5 (or 5,000 Yen) in posting fees for him, and he was delivered in air-freight.

Mr. Boras had some ideas on what sort of contract his client should receive. “Given my client’s importance to the website, he is willing to consider all sorts of reasonable offers. Just this afternoon, we proposed a $20 million, 10-year extension, with added benefits, and an additional 3,000 pounds of spam.”

E.Coli, reached at his palatial estate in Beacon Hill, was hesitant to discuss the negotiations in detail. “I love OverTheMonster, man. The fans are great and I want to stay here the rest of my life,” E.Coli said.

“Writing here, it’s hard to describe. There’s so much intensity, you know? I want to stay, but I have to look out for my family,” E.Coli said, as he hugged the three girls from BU who were huddled around him.

“I love writing with Allen and Randy, but sometimes, it also has to be about other things. Like respect, and stuff,” he added, rubbing his hands together while mouthing ‘Ka-ching Ka-ching.’

“Pass the spam,” he added.

"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.

by 0157H7 on Oct 21, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

This is the funniest thing I have ever read on a SBN site. Good work.

Baseball is God's sport! All Truth Goes Through Three Stages 1.It is ridiculed 2.It is violently opposed 3.Finally, it is accepted as self-evident. kinesiologist

by E5 on Oct 21, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of my favorite websites

Been a devout OTM’er since 2005. Game recaps are timely and analytical. In general, it’s always informative and a pleasant experience.

I do wish sometimes people looked more at the data, numbers, or evidence before posting things in the future. Baseball is a game based on numbers. Sentences like “he is bad” or “he sucks” just don’t add anything to any conversation. That’s my one critisizm and it’s not directed at any individual or individuals but merely a minutely growing concern.

Keep up the good work, Randy, Allen and Company and I look forward to great hot stove action!

by Red Peltic on Oct 22, 2008 12:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you can be objective without being a geek

that being said, if this site’s writers want to work with us stat geeks at BtB, we’d be happy to write articles using stats, give you the stats to write your own articles, write articles explaining which stats and important and why, or anything else you can think of.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 27, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was joking.

I’m a member at BtB, and I use those stats all the time in arguements.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 1, 2008 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, my commute is pretty long.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Feedback

I’ve been coming here for the better part of 3 seasons and its a fun site.
The community containing some of the long term posters such as Alan, Randy, NG, Massgirl, tommy, Soxacumen, swesox, britsox et. al. have made each season enjoyable.

Now if we can only convince management that having a starting catcher who can’t hit, nor stop the running game is pretty much useless at this stage….

by sydneysox on Oct 22, 2008 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think the second part of your 'Tek criticism

Is the most important. Yeah, we don’t need to focus on offense at the position, John Kruk et al, but if he’s not going to hit .260/.340-.350/.425 then he needs to throw out more than 22% of runners.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You just knew

everytime the Rays had someone on, that they’d run…and be successful at it. He threw out one guy, the catcher and that doesn’t really count.

by sydneysox on Oct 22, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It REALLY doesn't count.

Botched hit-and-run.

What I don’t understand is, to my eyes, Cash AT LEAST does just as good a job calling pitches with the relievers. He blocks balls just as good as ‘Tek, and throws out baserunners at a LOT better rate (just under 30% while catching Wake most of the time). When ’Tek was in his hitting slump (probably an insult to the word slump), and especially in late games with leads, why doesn’t he come in for defense, with Ross still on the bench “just in case”?

I don’t think we lost because of that, but it seemed silly to leave that gun on the bench for late baserunners.

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh, how many runs did he cost the Red Sox with his arm?

bumping up from 22% to 33% of runners caught is worth 3-4 runs over 100 steal attempts. and he was still pretty good at preventing passed balls/wild pitches, which is underrated.

the difference between ’Tek and a league-average hitting catcher is more like 10 runs.

Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 27, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really want

an un-rec feature and/or a way to ignore certain posters. And less tolerance of trolls: we may well end up with 100 comments on a fanshot created by a troll, but really, it’s a major turn-off to have them polluting the site.

I also think OTM would benefit from:

  • a guaranteed game thread.
  • more polls: a new poll each week would keep the page traffic high.
  • more crossover with other SBN team sites: the mighty Rev Halofan’s contributions aside, it’s good to hear from the opposition about their strengths and weakness, what they perceive ours to be, and also to get the other perspective on trades and trade rumours.
  • I still find the revamped SBN layout too busy. It could do with four or five fewer elements on the home page. It’s ugly and difficult to use, though I suppose I’m gradually getting used to it.
  • Do we need rules on posting conduct? Acceptable language policy, and how/if to use images? I think so.

Much love to OTM, though, as ever.

"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"

by britsoxfan on Oct 22, 2008 3:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All good suggestions

The toughest challenge of running a baseball blog (at least from my perspective, and I’m not running it) is keeping up with the relentless schedule. With 162 games and personal lives intruding, it can often be difficult to keep things up to date all the time.

Randy, is there a way to add scripting/programming to the site to auto-generate the game thread with lineups and so forth?

I think it’d be great to do QA sessions with major rivals during Spring Training, the All-Star Break, and the Post Season.

I’m generally OK with coarse language on the site (shit, ass, etc.), but I think that people should be able to articulate themselves without variations of the F-bomb.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 22, 2008 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We can “schedule” any post, which includes game threads. The new SBN 2.0 has made getting OTs up much easier. If I wanted to, I could do an OT 162 games in advance. It’d be pretty bare bones, but it’d be there….

by Randy Booth on Oct 22, 2008 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SD

We can schedule GTs for posting: You may have already seen this feature, I’m not sure. The problem is that lineups, I think, only show up a couple hours before game time, and I like to have those on there, so I try to wait. Otherwise, we could probably set up, roughly, a week’s worth in a few minutes.

Maybe Randy knows the answer to this, but I honestly don’t know what would happen if you put in a lineup widget without the lineups actually being known yet…

"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"

by Allen Chace on Oct 22, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It doesn’t self-updated, unfortunately. Just stays blank.

by Randy Booth on Oct 22, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Booo

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Oct 23, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mostly the non-power members just make a FanPost once the game has started.

Clutch: A measurement of how much better or worse a player does in high leverage situations than he would have done in a context neutral environment. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/glossary/

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Nov 1, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like just coming here to chat during games

I go to school in NJ, so the amount of MFY fans hurts my mind, and I like coming here to chat with everyone, and also because there’s alot that I don’t know about baseball and the Sox that everyone here can tell me.

I also agree with the suggestion that being able to ignore “trolls” would be awesome. I come here to avoid MFY fans, not be even more annoyed by them.

Point is, great job to the people who run the site, and thanks alot for making this season/post-season fucking awesome.

"All literary men are Red Sox fans - to be a Yankee fan in a literate society is to endanger your life." -John Cheever

by pedroiastroika on Oct 22, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Re: Troll blocking

Leave Fanposts up, but make comments able to be filtered. People like LouietheLip are mildly entertaining.

by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 22, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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