Playoff Announcers: A Modest Proposal
Recently, there's been much discussion of the role that new technology will play in baseball. Halfway through the year, Major League Baseball instituted a policy of instant replay for the evaluation of questionable home run calls.
Critics argued that this would open the floodgates for a host of other terrible developments, like machines calling Balls and Strikes. Supporters noted the limited scope, and that umpires retained discretion to use or discard the replay's findings.
Evil, heartless stat bloggers consulted their Star Trek bookmarks and posted the following image, lauding the advance of technology into the game:
via records.viu.ca
As one such blogger, I have a modest proposal. After careful consideration, and much spreadsheeting, I have concluded that the calling of baseball games is too important to be left to baseball announcers.
While Red Sox fans and Rays fans have much to argue about, I think we can come together on the following, carefully worded, diplomatic statement:
The TBS announcing crew of Buck Martinez, Chip Caray and Craig Sager are blathering idiots.
Baseball traditionalists will argue that there's no way a computer could possibly replace the insight that these men have on the game.
After all, what computer could come up with Buck Martinez's philosophy of "Selective Aggressiveness" and mention it every game? Or describe Jason Varitek's mind as a "computer?"* What computer could, like Chip Caray, claim that winning game 1 of a 7-game series is critically important when the odds of that team winning the whole thing are only 55%?
To answer these questions, I began the difficult process of calculating an announcer's value. The result of this painstaking endeavor is E.Coli's Numbers (TM), which I will gleefully spam on every SBNation site until the end of time.
How are they reached you ask? I analyze CORA: Criticism Over Replacement Announcer.
A replacement level announcer has a value of 0, of course. CORA is based on analysis of play-by-play data, as recorded by highly sophisticated technology, and it is evaluated as follows:
MINUS: The announcer misidentifies a pitch, or makes one up (Martinez: Beckett throws a splitter). The announcer discusses a player's "heart," "guts," "drive" or "motivation." The announcer attributes success to something other than play on the field.
PLUS: The announcer provides insightful commentary that is Sabermetrically correct. The announcer does not repeat rabidly inane phrases.
League-wide analysis by my company, Baseball Awesomeness Systems, has concluded that all major league announcers, with the possible exception of Don Orsillo (+4), have negative CORAs. If you'd like to consult the data in detail, please send checks for $20 to 12 Mother's Basement, Duluth, Delaware.
I then calculated CORAs for some computers, as well:
HAL9000: +2001
SkyNet: +1101
My 4-year-old PowerSpec which crashes 1-2 times every time I try to start it: +20
The conclusion of my remarkably unbiased study is that not only are computers far more effective as announcers, but there is a critical need for MORE CORA in baseball. I believe CORA may be the newest frontier of Sabermetrics, and it behooves advanced teams like the Rays and Red Sox to invest in CORA to maintain their competitive advantage.
* Jason Varitek, mentat. That's one way to market him, Mr. Boras.
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#3 is like a trick answer people.
"Are you a real doctor, or a doctor like Dr. Pepper is a doctor?"
by Allen Chace on Oct 16, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't blurt that out, AC.
This is a learning exercise. See me after class.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Oct 16, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, ecoli wins everything.
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by Allen Chace on Oct 16, 2008 8:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rays fan here first comment on this board
I agree the commentating has been an absolute abomination. I think that the commentators should be a combination of the crews that normally do the games of the two teams participating in the series.
So you would see something like Wayne Stats and Don Orsillo doing the play by play.
That way both announcers are familiar with at least one of the teams on a daily basis and they can also provide team specific insight and compare notes with each other on the opposite teams. I think that would make for a better broadcast.
That and knock off the damn Frank TV ads. ENOUGH ALREADY.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 16, 2008 9:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This used to be done
I don’t know when it stopped, but back in the day networks would have their guy joined by one of the local broadcasters. For example, in the 1975 series (Sox & Reds), NBC announcers Curt Gowdy (who had covered the Sox until ’65) and Joe Garagiola alternated games. They were joined by Sox announcer Ned Martin in Boston for games 1, 2, and 6 and by Dick Stockton (who had just begun with the Sox in ’75) for game 7. While in Cincinnati, local Marty Brennaman did color/play-by-play for games 3-5.
It makes tons of sense to do it this way. If you watch that series, the local guys are often correcting the national announcers, saying stuff like, “Well, so-and-so’s really done this kind of thing all year” or “You know, this-guy really doesn’t throw a splitter.” Local broadcasters know the team the best and should be allowed to inform the national viewers.
By the way, TBS is close to this by hiring local announcers to do the divisional series, but they still won’t stick them with their local teams. They hire the professionals to do the job but don’t expect them to be professional enough to be unbiased in their calls. Jerks.
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by ben nevis on Oct 16, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Nationals and Orioles are co-owners of MASN (Mid Atlantic Sports Net)
And they’re also “regional rivals” during interleague play. Normally, one team plays on MASN and the other on MASN2, but when they play each other during interleague, they put all four guys – the two O’s announcers and the two Nats announcers – into the same booth and let them all talk. It’s actually pretty fun to listen to (even if one of them usually is Buck Martinez, who’s been on the O’s broadcast team for six years).
by PhilR8 on Oct 16, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that is why I didn't know it was ever done this way.
I wasn’t born till 1979. I am still a relative youngster. My real first world series moment I remember is the Kirk Gibson homer then after that it is probably the earthquake in the series between Oakland and San Fran.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 16, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Slama Lama Ding Dong
Does that incur -4 or just -1?
As silly as TBS converage is, it’s way better than FOX’s. FOX’s coverage includes stupid graphics, sound effects, and even more inanity.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 16, 2008 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Craig Sager
During the ALDS Craig Sager was doing his best to portray every character from the Clue board game. He dressed as Col. Mustard and Prof. Plum, among others.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 16, 2008 9:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The CITGO sign caught on fire yesterday.
I’m not really superstitious, but that can’t be a good sign.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 16, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or maybe it IS a good sign. Maybe the Red Sox will hit 8 home runs.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 16, 2008 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh. Good *sign*...
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Oct 16, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside visitor..
On McCovey Chronicles, we have had some discussions about announcers, and who are good in the league. We’re under the impression that having Jon Miller and Dave Flemming on the radio and Mike Krukow and Duane Kuiper on the TV is one of the best broadcasting crews in the business. Of course then we hear things about other fans hating them.
Are you saying that there are no other “good” announcers in the league besides Dan Orsilla? I think we can all agree that all national broadcast teams are horrible, but what about all the local broadcast teams?
P.S. When I say all national broadcast teams, I mean all broadcast teams minus Jon Miller and Joe Morgan (when Morgan doesn’t talk at least).
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by WalrusMan on Oct 16, 2008 12:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jon Miller has a good broadcasting voice. Joe Morgan is fine when he sticks to mechanics (i.e. batting swings),* but almost everything else he says is awful.
If it wasn’t clear, this post was a joke, poking fun at sabermetric analysis. That said, I do hate the TBS broadcasting team. I’m sure there are plenty of good, intelligent announcers out there, especially at the local level and on regional networks. I haven’t caught any Giants broadcasts, but I’ll take your word on the quality of your Miller and Flemming / Krukow and Kuiper.
*At least I think he’s fine. I don’t know enough about this side of baseball to evaluate his remarks.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
by 0157H7 on Oct 16, 2008 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Well done good sir and yes, we can all agree on this.
Apparently the analysts douchebags on TBS think that the Rays win because of:
1). Catwalks
2). The raytank
3). Chuck Lamar
4). Bunting
5). Grit/veteran leadership
the mute button is your friend
by steve-o1285 on Oct 16, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6) Mohawks
7) Adoration of long-time, devoted fans.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 16, 2008 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
8) Jonny Gomes
9) Cowbells
10) Don Zimmer
I could have kept going, but I didn’t want to go to deep.
by steve-o1285 on Oct 16, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you underestimate the value of grit
see Garza, Matt
by staplemaniac on Oct 16, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If grit was that important, the series would be reversed
by steve-o1285 on Oct 16, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean facetious. I don’t even want to know what fecetious is. It sounds gross.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
by SoxDevil on Oct 17, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. Totally, um, crappy.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Oct 17, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is what disappoints me the most
They have not mentioned Andrew Friedman once but have showed him on the broadcasts in the stands numerous times. Maybe their notes are not updated and they think Lamar is still the GM and they think they are showing him when they are showing Friedman lol.
by PewterPirate55 on Oct 16, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL,
great post…. I was very tempted to choose option 4, but went with option 3!
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by jbluestone on Oct 16, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Silence is golden...
but duct tape is silver.
(or Duck Tape if you are a logo-whore)
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
by bs.uf15bosox9bears23 on Oct 17, 2008 1:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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