Poor Bastards
by LouieTheLip on Oct 14, 2008 5:32 AM EDT
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Before the season started Boston fans were putting Ellsbury and Buchholz in the hall of fame. You thought it would be crazy to give them both up for Santana. How does that look now?
Before the season started Beckett was the best pitcher in the league,....if you listened to Boston fans you would think they found another "Rocket". The fact is that Beckett has spent 3 seasons with Boston now and 2 of those seasons have been sub par.
Red Sox fans act like they have been dominating for years and that they are on the verge of a dynasty. The truth is they are wild card wonders. The Red Sox have won just one division over the last 12 years. That doesn't sound like a dynasty to me. That doesn't sound dominating. The Sox were the best team in 2007 that is true,...but that is all. In 2004 you were a good team who got hot at the right time. In 2006 you finished third behind the Blue Jays. Where 's the domination? Where's the dynasty??
Varitek is over rated and I hope you sign him for ten more years. I've never heard so much crap about a guy who bats 240 for three years now! I know, "He calls a great game". Get over it! He doesn't even catch the knuckle ball and costs you a roster spot every year. When you rate Varitek as a game caller remember this. Pedro was great before he came to Boston. So was Schilling. So was Beckett, and Clemens was great after he left. Get over TEK already.
You over rate your players, You over rate your teams, you throw the rules out the window by EXPECTING. Then wonder why your hearts hurt. The Patriots and the super bowl last year has taught you nothing as fans.
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We are in the post-season. The Twins and the Mets, not so much.
I didn’t bother reading any more of your drivel. Can I suggest that this account is deleted?
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
by britsoxfan on Oct 14, 2008 7:09 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I do not disagree in general with much of what you say here
about the talent on the team, especially Varitek! However good fans cannot be faulted for hoping for the best for their team. Remember the Sox have had more than 100 years to establish and grow a fan base, the so called nations, and it is real!
I do disagree with you that nobody here sees the faults on this team. Some are eternal optimists and so no evil so to speak, but many other see the truth about faults on this team and regularly write about it. Take me, I probably am too critical, but I need to vent when the Sox screw up because I want them to only win! I admit it, I am a fair-weather fan, and am about to go back into my passive mode as the Sox fade from the scene!
You 'regularly write about' the faults on this team?
Nope. Don’t think I’ve ever seen you around here before. Next time the Sox lose a game, or the next time a player (perhaps Jason Varitek, to pick someone at random) performs sub-optimally, why don’t you submit something to this site? I’d be interested to hear what you think.
"no1 has time to read your long comments, are you writing a book?"
I'm sorry
but what would a Yankees or Cowboys fans know about winning in the playoffs recently?
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 14, 2008 10:33 AM EDT reply actions
By the way...
…Tony Romo just called. He said maybe if you cared more about your teams than other people’s teams his pinkie wouldn’t be broken.
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 14, 2008 10:35 AM EDT up reply actions
My Friend
Are you serious. I can handle not winning a championship every year. There will be more rings as long as we have committed owners. You need to understand I am a fan of the sport first and foremost. I can watch any baseball game,….and do. I get the package every year,……and you watch the Red Sox games. I’ve been watching Jason Bay for years and can’t figure out why he’s batting 6th in the line up. He’s a GUN and better then the fans of Boston think.
My Friend
S’funny. You proclaim yourself a fan of “the game” (by which I presume you mean all sports), and yet your profile indicates that you hold some sort of self-proclaimed allegiance to the New York Yankees and the Dallas Cowboys. That’s odd, I think to myself, what do the Cowboys – from Texas – have to do with the Yankees – from New York. Then it strikes me that both teams were very successful in the 90’s.
I also note that the number of posts on Boston sites (to which you hold no allegiance) dwarf the number of posts on your teams’ sites.
By this, I deduce that you’re effectively the drunken lunatic sitting in the burned out, weeded-over husk of a bandwagon screaming incoherently at passing cars. Silly me, I slowed down to see if you needed help, or at least a Carl Pavano or Quincy Carter jersey.
Or, as smarter men have said, don’t feed the trolls. I shan’t, forever more.
Or at least until I forget I wrote that…
Rock me, sexy Jesus...
by nuthinboutnuthin on Oct 15, 2008 3:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude...
“By this, I deduce that you’re effectively the drunken lunatic sitting in the burned out, weeded-over husk of a bandwagon screaming incoherently at passing cars. Silly me, I slowed down to see if you needed help, or at least a Carl Pavano or Quincy Carter jersey.”
That is some funny shit! [Points at Louie the Lip] HAHA!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.
Ownership
There will be more rings as long as we have committed owners.
I, for one, am eternally grateful that I don’t follow a team that’s at the mercy of Steinbrennian shenanigans. Hank is committed alright, in the head!
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
Yeah
Off his rocker.
Question: Do you remember back in the day when the Red Sox were owned by racists? You stuck it out! You must be proud.
But now that you mention this--
Does any major league team today have less African- American PLAYERS than the Boston Red Sox? Just asking for new!
by NG on Oct 15, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why does this matter?
It’s not like Theo is sitting at his desk googling baseball players that are either free agents or possible trade fodder, and then crossing off the non-white guys from his list.
“Hmm… Let’s see. I’ll trade Papi, Lugo, Cora, and Coco for Tulowitzki and Holliday. And then I’ll trade Javy, Dice-K, and Oki for Pavano. There, all my players are white! Now, time to grab my robe and head off to the KKK meeting in the Monster scoreboard.”
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
African-American players
How many on the Sox??
I believe the number is zero! Is that a sign of anything?? I just don’t know, but I do think it strange considering the Res Sox past..
Coco Crisp is Af-Am.
David Ortiz is a dark-skinned Latino. Julio Lugo is a bad mu-“SHUT YO MOUTH!”
Baseball in general hasn’t done the best job of recruiting and retaining African-Americans. The Sox have few African-Americans, but more Asians than most baseball teams.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
How many on the MFY?
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 16, 2008 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I don't know
and am too lazy to Google it, but I know that after Sheffield left, he claimed that they were racist.
Well, I'll appreciate for you to keep my zingers outta your mouth!
A guess
0.5 players are African American on that team. Jeter’s mother is white.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 16, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Cano is black, or African American if you prefer. That’s what you mean when you say “African American.” Do you really care what country/continent the person came from?
Is the whole team white? That’s a topic for discussion. How many French-American white guys are on the team? No one cares.
Sorry for the tangent. Political correctness is silly. I think we should be talking about diversity overall. The Red Sox do have a larger-than-average number of asian players on their roster.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
African Americans make up many many great athletes!
If they are unwilling or unable to come to Boston because of reasons that can be changes, it would help the mission of the team in many ways to make these changes. I really do not know what is going on here, but something sure seems to be!
by NG on Oct 17, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Again, it's not like anybody is trying to prevent black players from coming to the Sox.
And yes, they are black. Most of them have never been to Africa. And the blacks in Africa can’t be called that either BECAUSE THEY’VE (probably) NEVER BEEN TO AMERICA!!!!
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Not to split hairs, but ...
Cano’s place of birth is: San Pedro de Macoris, Dominican Republic.
I gotta go 'cause I'm probably definitely gonna nod out again.
by Drugs Delaney on Oct 17, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm... we all want him higher up too.
Research before you idiocize.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
meh
Say what you want about the faults of this Sox team, but there are a couple things that should be noted:
1) The Sox made the playoffs when they had significant players injured during the season and the reigning World Series MVP out for all of the playoffs so far.
2) There are plenty of Sox fans who are very proud of this team, and for good reason. Like I said, poorly timed injuries, slumps and such and they still have made it this far. I’ll admit that I didn’t really become a fan until the 2003 playoffs during that series with the Yankees. After that, hatred for the Yankees turned into love for the Sox.
3) THE YANKEES DIDN’T EVEN MAKE THE FUCKING PLAYOFFS BECAUSE THEY SPENT TONS OF MONEY AND POSSIBLY GOOD YOUNG TALENT SO THEY COULD WIN NOW, WHICH THEY COULDN’T EVEN DO. Where’s the domination? Where’s the dynasty?
4) I’d like someone to find me anyone saying that Tek has been great for us this season. Aside from maybe a few good performances, he hasn’t. He IS, however, a great catcher. Maybe not as great as he once was, and maybe not even in the top 10, but still great.
5) YOU talk about YOUR players like they are gods (Jeter, A-Rod, Joba) and then you don’t make the playoffs, and you write posts like this saying how we’re wrong for doing the same thing.
A-Rod drinks wine coolers and Jeter wears lipstick.
You're missing the point
You have a great team, You have a team that can win it all. That’s not what I hear living in New England. What I heard was the Rays can’t hang,…..and I laughed,….because I watch baseball. I had Beckett on my fantasy team and he was Beckett of 2006,….not Beckett circa 2007. I watched Beckett all year and he rarely dominated, while YOU watched the 2007 Beckett all year and expected great things. Which is why you are so mad right now. You say “How can this happen”. While I say “I saw it coming”,…..because I watch baseball.
by LouieTheLip on Oct 15, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
Dude shut up. We all watch more than the Sox games, and we don't walk around proclaiming Beckett as Jesus.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Really
Is that why you were all excited about J.D. Drew and Julio Lugo. I was here. I heard it myself. I laughed at you.
Excited by Julio Lugo?!?
That proves you either weren’t here or have the reading comp skills of a roofied Paris Hilton. I’ve never seen any player get as much approbrium as that dude. As far as Drew is concernced, we wouldn’t BE in the playoffs if not for him. He put the team on his back and carried it for a month in the regular season so no. Start over.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.
Now you say that......
….of course. I’m talking about when you first got these guys. There was a buzz about how you finally found your shortstop.
by LouieTheLip on Oct 15, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Theo Epstein lusted after Lugo for some unknown reason until he finally got him. People are always excited when a new F.A. comes into town, it provides hope for a better season.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
No, we weren't. The then-Devil-Rays didn't want him, so why should we have?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
We were excited that Who-lio got hurt. Other than that, the name Lugo=groans.
And JD kinda kept us in the running in June-and last year in the ALCS in game 6, with the $14mil GS.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Oh, didn't see BCap's post.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
I just want to say
You’re all dumb.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
How can you overrate the 07 World Series Champs?
Umm…until someone wins the 08 WS, the Sox are still the champs. We are in the ALCS, 1 of 4 teams, and have a chance to win the WS in 08.
How does that make the Sox overrated?
Seriously, Angel fan, Yankee fan, or whichever fan base just drank the cool aid and believe that the Sox have replaced the Yankees as the the new “evil empire”… just because you have insecurity problems with your franchise does not make Sox fans “entitled.”
You guys must get over your hatred for your own teams.
P.S. I love all the “haters” who flock to this site when the Sox lose a game. Hey Louis, just checking my history, but the Sox were down 0-3 and came back to beat the Yankees…still funny after almost 4 years.
and down 3-1 last year.
2-1 ain’t shit.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Actually
I was happy the Red Sox won in 2004. Not at first, but then I realized that it was great for the rivalry which was losing it’s luster because we just kept spankinging you for 100 years and it was getting old. Until the past few years the Yankees did not hate the Red Sox fans like you hated us.
by LouieTheLip on Oct 15, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Hey louie:
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
You did fail.
And I hate cats.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Typical Sox fan? Yankee fans are the most idiotic, obnoxious guys around. Look at you; coming into a Sox blog and committing to try and piss us off. We’re in the Playoffs, pal!
Sorry
I am not good at losing. You had 100 years to perfect the art. Can you please grade me on a curve
It was 86. Stop rounding.
Or we’ll round up your gas bill to the nearest million. God I feel liberal. Stupid Obama.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Why must you insult the queen of Siberia by calling her a cauliflour growing cockroach?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
i got an idea
delete this post, because its a troll.
he posts like once a week. I like them, they let me vent.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
damn it. stupid reply button
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Umm... "sometimes" implies that you did it at least once.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
nope
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Never mind, see below.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Who wouldn't like to give Loui one juicy FAT lip?
Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.
"The Patriots in the Super Bowl last year taught you nothing as fans"
STFU you yankee piss, first of all who are you to equate Red Sox fans with Patriots fans? Or teach us any lesson whatsoever about how to root for a team? Red Sox passion trumps that lame crap you New Yorkers trot out in every game so zip it. The equation is simple:
RED SOX > YANKEES
MASS > NEW DORK
Forever Red Sox, screw all those pink-hatted babes, 'got no family, 'got no friends, 'got no life--RED SOX I LIVE FOR THIS.
Technically not an equation.
Those are inequalities.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Well, there's your first.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
Leave the poor children in Somalia alone!!!
They never blew up that chicken coop in your mother’s back yard, okay?
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
We used to have a saying here
Don’t argue with an idiot. He’ll drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
I’m not singling anyone out. This thread has devolved into name-calling.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.
To quote Britsoxfan from a few months ago
I say we take off and nuke this thread from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.
"It's just a tiny little nick, but it hurts when I get champagne in there."
- Jason Bay, on getting spiked scoring the winning run in ALDS Game Four.
Yes. But it's easy venting.
Remember when we were kids and we mixed sodas together and called them "suicides"? It was OK though, because Dr. Pepper was always there.
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