6-Man Rotation?
[editor's note, by Allen Chace] Figured I'd front-page this, since it's gotten some discussion. Interested? Know a way to work this out with our roster?
I'm wondering about the possibility of the Sox going with a 6-man rotation in 2008. You've got six possible members of the rotation, two of whom are over 40 (Schilling and Wakefield), two of whom will be innings limited (Lester and Buchholz), and one who never pitched in a 5-man rotation until last year and wore down by the end of the season (Matsuzaka). Only Beckett is an obvious candidate for a 5-man rotation, and it's possible that we could occasionally move him up in the rotation or skip a start from one of the others in order to let him pitch more often.
It's definitely a radical notion, but given our starting pitching for next year, it might be our best option. One concern is whether our pitchers would have trouble reverting back to a 5-man rotation in subsequent years (or in the event of an injury). Another is that carrying an additional starting pitcher would mean that we'd have to go with one less reliever or one less bench field player.
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I probably should say something of more substance than that, but there it is.
by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 1:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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I think I'd prefer to see a five man rotation with Beckett, Dice-K, Schilling, Lester, and Wake to start the season, with Buchholz starting in Pawtucket. As excited as I am about the possibility of Buchholz in the rotation, I think it might be better to give him just a little more time in the minors. He'll end up in the rotation by June anyway, possibly with Wake shifting to the bullpen.
by RSNexile on Nov 6, 2007 1:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Of substance.
6 starters
4 starting infielders
3 starting outfielders
1 David Ortiz
1 starting catcher
4 bench players: 4th OF, Moss/Hinske-ish player, Cora, Mirabeast
Which means six relievers. Paps, Oki, MDC, Timlin, Tavarez, Snyder/Lopez/Pauley/FA/Trade.
Strikes me as something you MIGHT be able to get away with easier in the NL. Or if your pitchers were all prepared to pitch in relief on their "throw day" rather than in a controlled bullpen session.
by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 1:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I suppose Tavarez and Buchholz are two guys taking up 1 roster spot. The long man is there to both pitch relief and make spot starts.
by SoxDevil on Nov 6, 2007 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Matzushocka on Nov 6, 2007 2:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I'm getting a little tired of getting these great relievers two years after they're great. Gagne, Donnelly, Williamson, Mantei, Mendoza, Bradford, etc.
by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2007 3:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Matzushocka on Nov 6, 2007 3:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Including Hoolio, we're 7 seven deep. I like it.
by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2007 2:02 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by panzermensch on Nov 6, 2007 2:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Matzushocka on Nov 6, 2007 2:54 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2007 3:22 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by RSNexile on Nov 6, 2007 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by tommy.otm on Nov 6, 2007 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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Remember Bronson Arroyo? It's basically impossible to have too many pitchers.
As for Coco - the taxi is waiting at the curb.
by RickD on Nov 7, 2007 6:27 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by tommy.otm on Nov 7, 2007 9:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by tommy.otm on Nov 7, 2007 9:42 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Fenway West on Nov 6, 2007 4:21 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by narbaysox on Nov 6, 2007 8:57 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Who said it? Me!
Based on the success the team had with giving Schilling and Josh Beckett more than seven days' rest on several occasions late in the season and the fact that Daisuke Matsuzaka thrived on five days' rest in his native Japan, the team is considering a switch to a six-man pitching rotation.
"We've discussed that concept, the concept of a six-man rotation," Epstein said. "I think it's premature to commit to any usage pattern, but certainly we're in a bit of a unique situation where you'd say a number of our starters might benefit from something like that in one way or another. But there's just so much attrition in baseball that the minute we start counting on having a six-man rotation or give it serious consideration, that's when we lose a pitcher or two in Spring Training and we look for someone to step up."
Adding more fuel to the speculation now is the return of Schilling for 2008, giving the Red Sox, at least on paper, six starters heading into the season in Beckett, Matsuzaka, Schilling, Tim Wakefield, Jon Lester and possibly Clay Buchholz.
"I'm sure that topic will come up in our internal discussions between now and Spring Training. It's an interesting concept, given the personnel we have, but not something we've fully explored yet," Epstein said.
Mike Petraglia, contributor to MLB.com.
I don't expect a 6-man rotation for the entire season, but I think it's reasonable to consider a 6-man rotation in September, and possibly August.
by SoxDevil on Nov 6, 2007 9:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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by gnick55 on Nov 6, 2007 9:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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Maybe some rotation of Wake, Schill, Lester, and Buch, but the top two need to be left alone with the opportunity to make 33-34 starts apiece.
by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 10:16 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I think the surplus of pitching will either be used to help out when pitchers invariably get injured or if everyone stays perfectly healthy then to just use them to give people some time off to get some rest here and there as it gets late in the year.
by WildYams on Nov 7, 2007 2:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although...
by tommy.otm on Nov 7, 2007 12:01 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2007 10:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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They already HAVE that idea.
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More seriously, the only way this would work is if our backup MI were someone like Ryan Freel or Chone Figgins who could also fill in in the OF. Alex Cora does not fit that bill.
by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 10:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by 0157H7 on Nov 6, 2007 11:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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I was wrong to suggest he can't play CF. It's really more that it's a waste to have OTHER OFs on the field when he's out there, right?
by Allen Chace on Nov 6, 2007 11:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by britsoxfan on Nov 7, 2007 3:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by britsoxfan on Nov 7, 2007 9:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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...and...I'm obtuse. Hehe. Get it now though.
by Allen Chace on Nov 7, 2007 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

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