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Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?

HT: tommy for first posting on this issue.

Globe's Nick Cafardo:

Both sides agreed there's still room for an agreement to be reached and they'll continue to stay in touch. Lowell will now be able to determine whether there's a four-year market out there for his services. Indications are that the Sox would not move off three years.

So...where do we go from here folks? To some degree, it's going to depend on what teams are interested in Mike Lowell. I'm pretty sure the guy has winning on his list of priorities, so it's not like we're out of it. If a playoff-calibre team doesn't come in with a significantly better 4-year offer than the Sox's 3-year offer, I do think he'll call Theo and accept.

One of the great things about this Sox team, however, is that we have Kevin Youkilis. A GG winner at 1B, as we all know, I feel pretty confident in saying that he would at least be league-average at 3B defensively. I'm not exactly breaking new ground with this information, but this improves our standing in the trade market.  We don't HAVE to trade for a 3B. It could be for either IF corner.

One of the reasons that Randy pays me the big bucks is to do the type of analysis I'll attempt right here, right now. Let's look at that trade market:

First basemen:

  • Conor Jackson, Arizona Diamondbacks.
    It's been speculated that one of he and Chad Tracy (IIRC, Jackson most likely) will be on the move with the emergence of Mark Reynolds at 3B. Jackson is coming off of a season (110 OPS+) that showed a slight improvement in power from his first full campaign in 2006. THT's defensive systems have him as slightly worse than Ryan Garko (ed: ugh). I'm not sure it's reasonable to expect a lot more power from him either. He showed some in the minors, but most could be attributed to the hitter-friendly PCL and California Leagues. Likelihood? 1/10, because I'm sure the Sox FO knows all of this better than I do.
  • Adam Dunn, Cincinatti Reds.
    Dunn is a bit of a polarizing figure in baseball, due to his gaudy K totals. That being said, the name of the offensive game is to not make outs, or to have as high an OBP as you can. Dunn over his career checks in at .381. Dunn is kind of a ridiculous butcher in the field, but as a #5 hitter/.OBP/HR threat, we could do a helluva lot worse. The Reds might see him as expendable due to A) budget concerns and B) the probability that both Jay Bruce and Joey Votto are both at least near-ready for full-time gigs in the ML. Likelihood? 6/10, Dunn's offensive game fits in our philosophy to a T, though the Sox FO might not be willing to sacrifice the D.
  • Richie Sexson, Seattle Mariners.
    ...talk about your all-time buy lows. Terrible season in '07. However, a couple things. We could pay all the salary and give up next to nothing OR try to get the M's to pay some of the salary and give up a mid-level prospect. His BABIP was .217 last season against a career mark of .294. The only question is, was he all of a sudden cooked last year, or just extremely unlucky? Likelihood? 3/10, too many negatives despite the (likely) low price in terms of prospects.
That's all I've got at 1B. According to his wikipedia entry, Nick Johnson will miss 2/3 of the '08 season. Which is great for you, because I probably would've listed his name, drooled for a few minutes, dropped half a line about the injury risk, and then written: Likelihood? 12/10 !11!@!@1

Third basemen:

  • Chad Tracy, Arizona Diamondbacks.
    Most likely the one the D-Backs hold onto, if only because of his recent injury (played in only 76 games in 2007) and being older than Jackson will make his trade value lower. Which is okay, because that's what Tracy is: okay. 100 OPS+ in limited time last season, 98 over a full year in 2006. He's not good with the glove at 3B, I guess I'm just listing him here because it's where he's played most, most recently with the D-Backs. He'd probably shift to 1B if we acquired him, though...Likelihood? 2/10. As a LHH with less than impressive pure power, Fenway could suck the limited value he does have from him.
  • Hank Blalock, Texas Rangers.
    He's been rumored to be on the block. Bounced back well from having rib surgery (134 OPS+ in 58 games). However, had two very subpar years in 2005-2006, and his home/road splits are atrocious. (career on the road? .699 OPS. Yikes.) Likelihood? 2/10, again, I'm sure the Sox FO has all the data I presented. He's (likely) an Arlington creation.
  • Andy LaRoche, Los Angeles Dodgers.
    .898 OPS in his career in the minors.. To me, there's no downside here to us aside from the likely cost. LaRoche is a quality prospect with good potential. He'd require the same back, and might be held in reserve for a trade for a marquee player. Likelihood? 4/10. We've got the pieces to make this happen, I think, if the Dodgers are interested in young pitching. However, I do think they'll hold out on trading him unless a bigger fish comes into play.
  • Scott Rolen, St. Louis Cardinals.
    Will go down, justly, as the greatest defensive 3B of our time. Still has those tools. Hitting-wise? He slipped a bit last season. We'd be locked in for 3 years, folks. $12M annually. Likelihood? 6/10. Getting warmer here, especially given that coming off an off year, the Cards' demands for Rolen can't be too high.
  • Who I left out, and why.
    Joe Crede: At what point is a guy with a .305 career OBP going to be a realistic target for the Sox?, The Disgruntled (Melvin Mora, Miguel Tejada): No thanks. One was never that good, and the other is in obvious decline with no real defensive upside at 3B. Garrett Atkins: I completely believe the Rockies FO when they said they weren't trading him. Not saying I think it's a good idea...Paul Konerko: The White Sox are a team that will never admit that they should rebuild.
As always, feel free to add your own ideas and/or blast the [censored] out of me depending upon my level of wrongitude.

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Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
Things that make you say, "Hmmmmm...."

Mike Lowell has the same agents (the Levinsons) that just got a 4-year deal done for Posada with the MFY.

That's right.  

A 36-year old catcher has a new contract for 4 years and $52 large.

Anyway, if Mike goes, I'll be sad to see him go.

But in my book, Youk can easily fill his shoes, if not his clubhouse presence.

BC14

by BC14 on Nov 13, 2007 1:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
I think they had a little more leverage to play with there.
  • The Yankees have no internal options at the C position.
  • Posada has played his entire ML career in NY and has been a fan favorite for most/all of that time.
  • He was the best player at his position on the market.
The best they can do with Lowell is make weaker versions of all of those arguments.

by Allen Chace on Nov 13, 2007 1:42 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
All valid points, but Mike's agents do seem to get what they want.  And in this case, they have the "Buh-bye" option.

If it comes to that, it sounds like an amicable parting could be in the works.

BC14

by BC14 on Nov 13, 2007 3:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
Have to make a run at Arod now good glove good bat. Need that bat to replace Manny anyway plus we get younger at 3rd. I'll worry about Arods playoff whoa's when I have to shit starting pitching in the Bronx. Arod can win here.

by BelieveinBoston19 on Nov 13, 2007 1:59 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Rolen
As a St. Louis native I can tell you right now we do not want Rolen.

by gnick55 on Nov 13, 2007 9:09 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Brad Wilkerson?
Just throwing another name out there, someone we could probably sign for cheap who can play 1B.  Lifetime .354 OBP, decent power.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/wilkebr01.shtml

Probably not the solution, but could give us a back-up option since he can also play the OF.

by argo0 on Nov 13, 2007 9:53 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Brad Wilkerson?
I would hope that Bwilkerson is only an option if we trade Coco and need a 4th outfielder. He was poised to be a very good player, and was receiving some hype, but he's largely a bust.
"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Nov 13, 2007 10:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
What about Sean Casey??

Comparabile defense to Youk, not a bad bat either. Seems like a good temp fix if we can get him for a 1 or 2 year contract

Also the Dodgers seem to have an excess of 1B and need a CF (Coco). Just throwing it out there.

by drabidea on Nov 13, 2007 10:21 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nomar?
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Nov 13, 2007 11:30 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

3B options we haven't mentioned
Freddy Sanchez - PIT
Interesting option; a former Sox farm-hand that hits for average, but not power. Would be a good, defensive 3B.

Edwin Encarnacion - CIN
Young, slugging 3B. Doubtful the Reds will part with this cost-controlled player.

Ryan Zimmerman - WAS
Young, cost-controlled slugger. Unlikely the Nats will part with him, and Bowden is notoriously difficult to deal with, though he sometimes makes dumb trades.

Mark Teahan - KC
The Royals seem to want to keep Teahan. He's young an hits well. Still, the rebuilding Royals might listen...

Josh Fields - CHI
He's cost us a high-end pitching prospect, but he's a guy with a high ceiling. Is he worth Crisp + a Bowden or Masterson?

Ty Wiggington - HOU
Hits well enough, though he's no Mike Lowell.

Other possibilities:
Pedro Feliz, Hank Blalock, Bill Hall, Macier Izturis, Mike Ensberg,

Here is ESPN's free agent tracker.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Nov 13, 2007 1:11 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Options at 1B:
Garret Atkins (Youk is better defensively at 3B) - COL
With Ian Stewart cost-controlled and ready to play in the majors, the Rockies could trade Atkins.

Mike Cuddyer - MIN
Would Minnesota trade Cuddyer for a new CF package? He's 28 yrs old with a career line of .270/.346/.450.

Carlos Delgado - NYM
Might be available, though I don't think we match well as trade partners

Adam LaRoche - PIT
Whiffy LaRoche is Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde pre- and post- All Star break. Think Aubrey Huff, but worse. Still, he might be available and costs around $8 M/yr, I think.

Casey Kotchman - LAAoA
Might be available in a trade. He's always had potential--he mashed in the minors--and was putting it together last season until some pitcher beaned him (in the noggin, I think).

Jarrod Salatalamacchia - TEX
An expensive option prospect-wise, but he could play 1B and rotate in at C.

"You know you're having a bad day when the fifth inning rolls around and they drag the warning track." - Mike Flanagan, Baltimore Orioles pitcher, 1992.

by SoxDevil on Nov 13, 2007 1:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
Well, all of these options pass the critical ABAR test (anyone but Alex Rodriguez), which is clearly an issue for many people here. Some of the players here are really unimpressive.

Conor Jackson's numbers are decent for a 3B but leave a bit lacking at 1B. His fielding is also poor - good range but 12 and 11 errors in the past two seasons. Still, he'd be a better bet defensively than Adam Dunn. We already have a butcher in left field, and a DH, so there is no room on the Sox for Dunn. Dunn would also cost top prospects and probably demand an extension (he has a no-trade clause). As for Sexson, while he'll likely rebound next year, it still wouldn't be enough. The Sox should be able to have a player with more than a .345 career OBP at 1B, let alone one coming off an atrocious season. The Sox would need to get salary support and give up very little (maybe Hansack) for this to work.

If we want to worsen the defense / be cheap, why not start Chris Carter at 1B. He won't cost prospects or demand a large salary.

Scott Rolen probably would put up even worse numbers in the AL. Same deal with Tracy. They'd also cost the team prospects. No thanks.

I like Blalock. He hits well in Fenway
Career: 74 AB, .297, .354, .514, 4 HR, 4 2B
2005-07: 37 AB, .459, .500, .676, 2 HR, 2 2B

so that might mitigate his leaving Arlington. He's a good fastball hitter - I remember in 06 he faced Papelbon and clubbed a high fastball, one way out of the strike zone, off the monster. (This year Paps struck him out with something like three straight splitters.) The Sox match up with the Rangers, as some sort of Blalock-Crisp swap would provide value for both teams.

The Dodgers have LaRoche and Loney, either of whom could be good for the Sox. However, I agree that LA is probably looking to trade them for a star (like Cabrera). Maybe we can trade Manny+$ for one of them + some other prospects, if another team gets Cabrera.

by 0157H7 on Nov 13, 2007 1:31 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
At the very least a Crisp-Blalock deal might fill the Hinske void. And maybe we could expand it to snag one of their catching prospects.
Manny Ramirez is a bad man

by tommy.otm on Nov 13, 2007 1:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?

The Sox's front office should all be fired if they trade for Sexson.  He can't play first base, he is the anti-Youklis, he is slow, lumbersome, and his fielding is probably the worst in all MLB for first baseman, he is in the same category as Pedro Delgaldo and Dmitri Young as the worst fielding first basemen.

 He probably has the worst plate discipline for any player in baseball, given he swings at anything and sees if he connects, and it shows in his stats, the Mariners had a pretty good team this year, but he was one of the biggest rally killers for them, when he did hit like hitting 2hr off Santana in Aug, it helps the Ms, but these were very rare occurences.

  It is idiotic in not signing Lowell because he doesn't fit in some SABR model, but to get Sexson, who probably be out of baseball after this year.

  The only team I can see trading for Sexson is the Yankees, in which they give the Mariners one the highest paid player in baseball: Jason Giambi deferred part of his salary, to try to solve two big headaches at once for both teams, and hope a change of  environment will jump start their careers.  Sexson would had been out the door a long time ago, if it wasn't for his contract.  IF the Sox get Sexson, then they are incompetent.  To let Lowell go while thinking Sexson is anyway a replacement is incompetence.  If they don't want to sign Lowell or give him a four year deal, because of declining production as inevitable, I can accept that.  However, acquiring Sexson who can't field, unless the ball is hit directly at him, can't hit unless it is a change up across the plate, can't run, and only benefit is huge wingspan to get balls thrown high and wide isn't worth the $14 million.  Might as well trade for Giambi, who at least doesn't strike out and has some semblance of plate discipline.

by superferret on Nov 13, 2007 6:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: But how do you really feel about Sexson?
Indifferent... blase... His worked over shoulder would give a nice harmony to JD Drew's delicate shoulder as well.

by superferret on Nov 13, 2007 10:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
opps, I meant Carlos Delgaldo, I always get my Tour de France winners and first basemen mixed up...

by superferret on Nov 13, 2007 6:54 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Re: Planning for possible life after Mike Lowell?
Adam Dunn would kick ass for the Red Sox. I could live with the strikeouts and mediocre defense for 40 HRS and 120 RBIs a season.

by gnick55 on Nov 13, 2007 8:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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