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GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2

1-16-08_053_tiny by Rob Booth on in Open Thread

Hmmm, don't know what to say. Go Sox!!!!

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Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
i dont really agree with putting in timlin here

by spinz on Oct 27, 2007 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
it's better then leaving lopez in the game.

by Rob Booth on Oct 27, 2007 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

definitely
but i dont like the way timlin gives up inherited runs. Right now hes looking pretty good though

by spinz on Oct 27, 2007 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: definitely
No, he isn't. That's one almost home run and a line drive that Lugo needed a ladder to reach.

I hate to say it, but unless Oki is ready to go tonight after his game 2 heroics, we're going to need Gagne to pitch tonight.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Nice that he's doing it for them instead of us for a change. :)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Oy! Timlin is not showing good stuff tonight, but that was a hell of a play by Lugo!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Hell yeah Lugo!
That was *gorgeous*.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hell yeah Lugo!
Skill 70%
Luck 30%.

And I'd rather have guys who make their luck, the way he just did.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lugo!
What a stud!!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Lugo!
I like how he waved to the crowd!   hahaaaaaaaaaa

SIDDOWN, folks!  Inning over!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lugo!
Now let's get those runs back -- we're probably going to need Gagne to pitch tonight, so we're going to need 'em!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lugo!
What's needed?  6?  7? ;)
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Lugo!
If Gagne only has to go 1/3 of an inning, that should be enough.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Awfully high strike
of course I'm referring to altitude and not that an ump would have to be tripping out of his mind to call a strike at the letters.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Hey! Did you know it gets cold in Colorado at night at the end of October?

I never would have known had the announcers not told me 3000 times tonight!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
also there's apparently some atmospheric changes. I learned this from the sorts of hints they've been dropping. ;)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can anyone tell me
if this is a large field, or a small field?
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Can anyone tell me
Hopefully McCarver will fill us in, but I can say from experience that it is a large field. It has a capacity for lots of idiots and their towels.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

ARGHHH! TOWELS!!!!
I'll probably complain about those stupid things at least two more times before the game is over. Try to ignore me.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Can anyone tell me
..... and their towels.
lol, good one

by Rob Booth on Oct 27, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Can anyone tell me
Struck me out.  

But then again, I'm not listening to a word that McStupid says, if that's where the reference was...

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Can anyone tell me
I'm not sure whether you're of sufficient credentials to make me really buy that response. I'll wait to hear from McCarver.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Can anyone tell me
How many times will you have to hear it from him? Will 973 be enough? Or will he really have to get annoying?

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Youk looks mildly insane
Either that or he's trying out for the Olympic fencing team.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Youk looks mildly insane
In a pre-game interview Youk said he hates it when it gets cold as it makes hitting harder with cold hands and fielding with cold feet.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Is that a man or a woman?
Over-the-hill man. When your voice cracks like that on the high notes, it's time to stop singing in front of 60,000 fans and millions on TV.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Is that a man or a woman?
That was NG singing you didn't know?

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Is that a man or a woman?
Really? Who kicked him below the belt?

That was really awful!

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sox need to set 'em down 1-2-3 this time around.
They're getting some momentum, especially after Herges Ks the side.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Bullpen
Yeah, the Rox bullpen doesn't get enought credit.  They've been consistently better than the Rockies starters.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Bullpen
with the exception of that one inning in game one!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

THIS GUY
Didn't Earth Wind and Fire have a song that said something like  "Do you remember, the 7th gave that would have been played in November (but we got swept)"

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: THIS GUY
Heee heehahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Good one!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: It's cold
Here's an Apodaca right at ya.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Grr.
shut 'em down quick now.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: Grr.
I hope Okie Dokie has his stick...

by Matzushocka on Oct 27, 2007 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oki.
I think it's time.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Pleaase take out timlin. Please never never put gagne in this game.

by spinz on Oct 27, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: With Paps and Oki rested
It might. Oki went two innings on Thursday, so I doubt we can rely on him for the eighth, and Paps went 1 1/3 on Thursday, so you don't want him going two innings tonight in case we need him tomorrow. So who else can you put in there for the eighth?

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: MDC?
I forgot about him. Well, better him than Gagne -- but we need Oki to come up big here, and then we need MDC to pitch well, too. If either falters, it'll be Gagne's turn.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: With Paps and Oki rested
I thought they both threw very few pitches that night, though????
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: With Paps and Oki rested
Oki threw 28. I don't remember how many Paps threw.

But it's now a one-run game.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ks
any for timmy?  Christ.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

O-KA-JI-MA!
Shut 'em down!  

K and a DP does just fine here.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

If Timlin had snagged that ball....
... Matsui would have been caught - again.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: If Timlin had snagged that ball....
Looked like he short-armed it, maybe thinking Lugo was right there...
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Ok, let's not panic. We still have a one run lead. But Oki has to step up now.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:44 PM EDT reply actions  

GEEZ!
Next time you serve a potato, put some butter on it!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 27, 2007 11:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: You know Buck and McCarver are loving this
That and the vacuousness explain the lack of polysyllabic words.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You know Buck and McCarver are loving this
Screw 'em. There's no better way to shut them up than by shutting the Rockies down and getting the runs back in the eighth.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
I hope all those a****s hoping for a game back in Boston are happy.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

At least now it feels
like we're in the WS against a real baseball team. (that's what I came up with while trying to find a silver lining.)
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 27, 2007 11:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: At least now it feels
The Rockies are not a REAL baseball team.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Get the ball down and get the DP
You know, I don't get this. I used to pitch a lot, and I never had a problem locating my pitches low in the zone. Oki's a major league pitcher, so why is everything waist-to-letter high?

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Get the ball down and get the DP
Not to be trite, but I do think the altitude does change things a lot.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Get the ball down and get the DP
Not that much. It's a question of making adjustments. Unless your arm is too tired, a good pitcher should be able to locate his fastball at the knees once he is warmed up.

Breaking balls, on the other hand, are a different matter. For them, the ball won't break as much, and it takes a lot of experience to figure out what you can get away with.

by RSNexile on Oct 27, 2007 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Get the ball down and get the DP
Ah. I've never pitched so I wouldn't know. Regardless, Oki seems to have regained control.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Damn....thought Tek had that.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:55 PM EDT reply actions  

I smell a
strike 'em out, throw 'em out.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: I smell a
Well they were smarter than I thought.

oh yeah.

SIT DOWN HAWPE

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 27, 2007 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Hawp delivers again!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 27, 2007 11:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
We need a sort of Austrian chant every time he comes up:

Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe! Hawpe!

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Stress
Okay, my hair is going grey from the stress and the time it's taking to end this inning!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Looks like Oki's settling in.
Here's hoping I'm right about that :)
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:00 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
would you bring him back for the 8th?

I would.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
Bad idea. 30 pitches already, after 28 on Thursday. And as the dumbass keeps reminding us, it's cold. I wouldn't risk sending him back out to the mound after he's cooled off a bit.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
It's time to yank him. He's at about 30 pitches already.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
I'd bring him for an out or two.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
Better to let MDC do his job and bring on Paps in the ninth.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
I thinks he's just warmed up.

2 inherited runners, and then serving a potato to the first batter he faced... he's done well since that disaster.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Looks like Oki's settling in.
And he's thrown 30 pitches. He's done, unless you want to see more of the same next inning.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Okajima-san!!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Crap - Tulawitski is everything he's advertized as.  Guy can flat out sling it.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:07 AM EDT reply actions  

Coco!!!
Good time to get the bat swinging!
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

Coco
with a single. Lets do something with this Tacoby.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:10 AM EDT reply actions  

TACOBY!!!!!!
7-5. Ellsbury bringin the insurance.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Come on Tacoby!  Meat tacos for everybody!!!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:12 AM EDT reply actions  

Only 1 out
Pedroia wanna add some insult to injury. 9-5 on a Pedroia double.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Hawp Fan Club
This guy is gonna win it all for us!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hawp Fan Club
Has anyone ever been named World Series MVP after striking out a dozen times and being on the losing team?

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Hawp Fan Club
This guy's making a case for it!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 8:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Somebody needs to make
a Jacoby-Dustin rookie power shirt.

by soxaholic on Oct 28, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Yessss!
"SK: Hey, imagine what Steinbrenner's statue'll be doing. SO: Cast in bronze with his wallet out."

by mmmsox on Oct 28, 2007 12:13 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
This team is just relentless!  How much fun you guys havin'!
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
As much fun as I can with my pants on!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Baseball's ALWAYS more fun with your pants off.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Your pants are still on?
Nevermind...not gonna go there.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Ummm, why is Fuentes still in this?
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Why not? Who else could they use, Corpas? They need to score four more runs just to have a chance; why bring him in now if they don't think they're likely to come back again?

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: some math
I agree. I don't know their bullpen, but he looks like the pitcher of last resort.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: some math
He's actually pretty good. He's just having a bad day at the worst possible time for his team.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: some math
Agreed.  I've seen lots better from him.  Looked like he was aiming everything, and that led to (good) trouble.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Exactly

Perez & Gagne are "actually pretty good" as well..we just didn't get to see the good Perez n the playoffs; nor have we seen the good Gagne

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Exactly
explain this "good Gagne" of which you speak?

I hear tell of a pitcher by the same name who pitched for the Blue Sox, but this could not be the same man.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Exactly

Haaaaaaaa! I heard he used to be good when he pitched for the Dodgers...urban legend maybe?

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: some math
im pretty sure fuentes is supposed to be their oki.

by spinz on Oct 28, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bring Oki back?
I'm inclined to try to get 1, maybe 2 more outs. He's up near 30 pitches, but we ought to preserve the pen as much as possible in the incredibly unlikely event that this will not be a sweep.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Bring Oki back?
He's already been lifted.

Coco batted for him.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Bring Oki back?
That's right. I forgot. Stupid NL play.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tito answered that
MDC it is. I hope he doesn't shit the bed again.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

And to think....
... that the Rox worried about the Papi-Manny combo!

hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Why is it that the Sox fans reach out and possibly interfere with Ellsbury making the play?

Dumb!!!

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:25 AM EDT reply actions  

My guess?
It's freaking THRILLING when a ball comes flying your way in the world series. I'd know better, but *damn* would it take some willpower to do the right thing and back off.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: My guess?
It's also a good way to get yourself some death threats -- look what happened to that guy who interfered with Moises Alou when the Cubs were five outs away from the World Series. It got so bad for him, he ended up somewhat agoraphobic!

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I love to hear the Rockies fans
chear so loud when a batter makes contact, and then suddenly go quiet when it goes right into Pedroia's glove. ;)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:27 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: I love to hear the Rockies fans
Common occurrence with so many bandwagon fans.

At the 1-game playoff with the Padres, that was going on all night - a routine fly ball they'd scream like it was hit 500 feet... it was funny.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: 3 pitches, Paps.
On the other hand, 1 pitch will do.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Random inter-pitcher-change comment
did you guys see the Rockies fan with the large sign that read "Big Papi Eats Big Boogers"?
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:32 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Random inter-pitcher-change comment
Not sure where, but I don't think it was right behind the plate. All I saw in the shot was crowd. Was earlier in the game, it just popped into my head for some reason.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Random inter-pitcher-change comment
Anyway, wins the prize for Most Juvenile Sign Evar. The question is: Juvenile Juvenile, or South Park Juvenile?
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Random inter-pitcher-change comment
I'd have to say South Park.

His parent's probably helped him make it.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Tulowitzki

Every time I see him, all I can think is "Driven".
The whole Jeter thing is hysterical.

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Tulowitzki
haha. That was hilarious. I thought they were going to say he bought a lock of his hair off EBay next.

Such Jeter love makes me only hate him more.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Tulowitzki
I swear I  typed "jeter love" but erased it ...DRIVEN --haaaaaaaaaaaa

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Can I just say,
this is turning out to be a *GREAT* game.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:42 AM EDT reply actions  

was that Mickey Rivers?
stolen base for Lowell what a surprise!!

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

Hawkins pitch is soo weird
I mean not "Hi I'm Okajima I stare at the ground" weird, but his weird arm spread is strange.

In other news, Lowell gets home on the sac fly. 10-5

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:44 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hawkins pitch is soo weird
At least Hawkins "has a head".
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
This has been a long one, hasn't it?
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: this has been a long one
Not for a sox postseason game, really :)
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
I won't try to go into the issue of heavenly time zones.
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
I'm sure the Rockies organization can tell me all about "Our Heavenly Father", I just want the last half of the inning to go quickly.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
Only 10:45 in Denver. And don't call me Jesus.

:)

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
I'll still get to watch Red Green!  woo hoo!
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Jesus it's almost 1 am.
Unfortunately I'm not watching in Denver.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

You Punks need to stop complaining about the time
it 4:47am here in London...I've been doing this forever now...ugg.
You can take the boy outta Boston, but you can't take the Boston outta the boy.

by B Cap on Oct 28, 2007 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why does that ad say...
"Capture your memory witnessing Cardinals history" ????
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

You'd think...
... that the fat slob behind home would get tired of waving that stupid towel in a circle, but no.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: You'd think...
Why? He has an almost indefinite supply of energy. :)

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You'd think...
I am not sure if I am sleep deprived or what but this thread is incredibly funny to me.

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: You'd think...
It's the lack of sleep.

Gotta be.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I can't believe they're just leaving
Hawpe on deck. He's gonna be the game ending strike-out--for the 3rd time in a row.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: I can't believe they're just leaving
Now, now. Let's not deprive the kid of his shot at World Series history.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: I can't believe they're just leaving
It'll be sure to come in contract talks, if he does K again.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hawpe is
the perfect guy to end on :)
this is not my dot com (okay, maybe it is.)

by dmauer on Oct 28, 2007 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
That last pitch was a strike in the first inning.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Can't believe he let that go by....
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Same here. It really was a ball; I'm just pointing out that it was a strike in the first inning. I'm really not impressed by Barrett tonight.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hawpe
a triple. Ellsbury looked bad there.

So we have to end it with their catcher.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Hawpe
Must 'ave been takin a snooze.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
McCarver's having a hard time with these names. He must be tired.

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 12:55 AM EDT reply actions  

There we go
SOX WIN! 10-5

Better get the ring measurements tonight Tito. That way everything is ready.

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

ONE MORE TO GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And w/out sounding cocky, I thought the Rockies were supposed to be "good" and "destiny's team"? The NL really sucks.

by Matzushocka on Oct 28, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Get the brooms out....
.... let's wrap this bad boy tomorrow, and then my Packers come to spank the Broncos on Monday!

WOO HOOO!!!!!!!!!

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
To paraphrase former MFY Yogi Berra, it ain't over 'til the idiot announcers shut the hell up.

Lester vs. Cook tomorrow night. I like our chances.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Icing on the cake when Lester wins tom. after all hes been through!

by Matzushocka on Oct 28, 2007 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Absolutely. Unfortunately, today's bullpen shenanigans practically guarantee we'll see Gagne at some point tomorrow, so even if Lester is in line for the win, there's a pretty good chance there'll be a blown save.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
On the other hand, if Gagne does get in, maybe we'll see the National League Gagne...
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Weather...
 ... is supposed to be better tomorrow.

70 degrees, sunny.

Probably 55-60 by game time.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 12:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I just noticed...
Ken Rosenthal makes Pedroia look tall.

by Rob Booth on Oct 28, 2007 12:59 AM EDT reply actions  

Uno mas...
for those of you that don't speak Spanish that means "sweep" in spanish.   vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 28, 2007 1:29 AM EDT reply actions  

Let me be the first to give congrats on winning
the series.  

Good to see what $150M can get you as opposed to $50M.

by PinchHitLancePainter on Oct 28, 2007 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
Already whining, huh?

Did you happen to notice it was two rookies making league minimum who were largely responsible for tonight's win?

Good grief - have a little dignity in your loss.  

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Pre-Mature Sour Grapes
I'm not sure what the point is here.

A) We haven't won anything besides the first 3 games.

2) The Sox make a lot of money. The FO does a great job selling the entire team as a product, small stadium + large fanbase = high demand for tickets, which = higher ticket sales. They put this money back into the team. Would it be better if the Sox ownership group just pocketed that money?

Z) Look who did the heavy lifting for the Sox tonight. Sox draftees Jacoby Ellsbury, Dustin Pedroia, Manny Delcarmen, and Jonathan Papelbon. Dice-BB is obviously bought and paid for, but the only thing I'd ask you to consider is, say what you want about the Sox for the money they plunked, but Daisuke himself made $6M this season. He was worth $6M this season. So make sure to distinguish between "Sox overpaying" and "Overpaid Daisuke" when spewing this garbage elsewhere.

Don't respond. You've given me no reason to believe you'll be sensible in doing so, and you can feel free if you'd like to say I'm being unfair in this statement.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 1:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Pre-Mature Sour Grapes
Not higher ticket sales, higher ticket PRICES.

Either way.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Pre-Mature Sour Grapes
Average attendance at Rockies games this year was just over 28,000.

For the 3-game series against the Yankees, the Rockies front office charged "premium" prices, with the normally $45 ticket going for $75.

That's the thinking of the Rockies management.  I'd classify it as "AAA", but that would insult a lot of Triple-A organizations.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Pre-Mature Sour Grapes
This is overstating the point a bit (read: overly insulting to the Rockies), but you're absolutely right.

The thing is, when you ante up for known quantities (um, Drew and Lugo, I guess) or pitchers who were bigger than life before they came here (Daisuke), you have something to sell.

For the Rockies, as good as they've been this season, is there any way they could have sold tickets (pre-season) based on "Troy Tulowitzki, RoY and GG SS" or "Kaz Matsui, really guys, much better than when he was with the Mets" or "Willy Tavares:  didn't make us wish you could steal 1B most of the season". I'm picking extremes, but obviously, when you have a lot of unexpected or semi-unexpected good things happen to a team, it's harder to market.

The Rockies weren't expected to make the postseason, so you have to do what you can to get butts in the seats (lower prices, for example). If they don't hike the prices a bit and then use that anticipated or actual revenue to intelligently sign some FAs or extend some of their young players at cheaper prices, then they'll make absolutely no steps forward, at any point, and really show the Rockies' fans their committment to winning.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
... of course, considering the source of this:

************
Let the Hatred begin!!!
I am glad we are playing Boston as this allows for fill scale hatred!

by Rocks Phan on Sun Oct 21, 2007 at 10:01:15 PM MDT
*************

I'm not the least bit surprised.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...

The salary comments are annoying  - we all know the Yankees $195M bought ( could also use 'brought' here) them so much.

The Sox have a big payroll but  so what? They play as a team & that matters most.

The season isn't over yet; so you keep the premature mock congrats.

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
The obvious irony is lost on our whining friend here.

I live in Denver, and have lived here since before the Rockies became an MLB franchise.

And guess what the #1 complaint is about the team's front office, year in and year out:

"They don't spend enough money to get the good players, wa--h-h-h-h-h."

So now that you're local franchise is on the brink of being swept, it all boils down to MONEY?

Don't make me laugh.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
For 100% of baseball owners, OWNING a MLB franchise is by far the least profitable thing they do. If the Rockies were somehow able to convince Santana to pitch in their frickin ballpark when he becomes a FA, if they lose out on him b/c of money, it's no one's fault but their own. Whatever profit John Henry makes off of the Sox is absolute peanuts compared to his other venture(s).

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
And there's the rub with the Rockies front office.

Do a google on "Mickey Monus".  That guy was actually going to be the majority owner in the team back when the franchise was first awarded.

Ol' Mickey did a little time (10 years) in Club Fed.  It nearly cost Denver the franchise, after his $1 BILLION bilking of a drug store chain that he owned (Phar Mor) became news.

But the most recent iteration of the team ownership are penny-pinchers, to be sure.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
And this goes with my point about baseball owners in general. If you're in it for the $$, get out. It should be (90% at least) a labor of love. Maybe new owners should be given some kind of baseball history exam to prove they are real fans of the sport.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
I posted this as if it were a seperate string from my comment earlier, and it wasn't. Sorry if there was any confusion, BC.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
No confusion, Allen.  We're in agreement.  I know that there was another owner in the Rockies, back in the late 90s early 00's - his name escapes me at the moment, but his "real" job was running / owning a trucking company.  That long-term venture went bankrupt, and the Rockies was really all he had, so of course, every $ was used for his own, nothing like you see in the old teams, Boston, Philly, NY, etc...

This Rockies organization has always been an anachronism.  

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
Heck, look at Bud Selig. When he ran the Brewers, they were the most profitable team in the game. They also sucked because he pocketed every penny.

Yet another reason I think he's one of the five worst things ever to happen to baseball.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
In no particular order:

Black Sox scandal
Harry Frazee
Pre-1947 discrimination
Pete Rose gambling

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
I know someone will ask, but steroids aren't on the list because Bud Selig had quite a bit to do with that particular problem.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
Didn't the Rockies once  pay Mike Hampton one billions dollars? It doesn't matter because we all know only the Sox & the Yankees are evil money banks.

by MassGal on Oct 28, 2007 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
The Rockies have had plenty of opportunity to get in the hunt - their short history is littered with good players who were let go, and almost always over salary issues.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to ...
Also this one:

=====

Re: Let the Hatred begin!!!

Learn to die!

by Rocks Phan on Sun Oct 21, 2007 at 11:10:25 PM CDT
[ Parent | Reply to This ]

=======

Personally, I'm less than impressed with Rocks in the Head.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Rockies fans have been running this "New Evil Empire" line since they couldnt figure out Okie in game 2.  

Rockies fans:  

First we are a Nation not an Empire.

Second, you got beat by a 2 guys who make league minimum.

Third, I remember the good ole days when you spent ridiculous amounts of money on Daryl Kile, Dennie Neagle and Mike Hampton.  So now you've decided you are above paying for free agents bc 18 of you 25 players still haven't reach arbitration eligibility?  Wow how big of you.

Fourth, talk to the Sox fans in about 2 years when you have to pony up $200 million to keep Holliday in Denver.  Again, will you stick by your virtue of not paying for players or will you cast this aside to keep him from the Mets?

Last, seriously, live it up bc when the Dodgers get Johan Santana and PAY HIM, you wont sniff the post season for another 15 years.

Btw, Lester is paid league minimum and tonight you needed the $103 million dollar man, not Josh EFFing Fogg.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
To be fair to Rockies' fans (not the one who commented to start this string, but most/all others), it's not just them touting that line.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 3:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
I know, its the common line from most of the third tier franchises who wont spent money.

What must hurt is the fact that the Sox built this team thru the draft, developing players, making smart and dumb trades, going over seas to Japan and adding free agents.  Sox didn't just buy this team.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 3:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Also, I wonder if the people making these statements will be chirping next year when the Sox clear almost $30 million from our payroll?

Clement - gone
Coco - Traded
Schilling - Unfortunately gone
Tavarez - gone
Gagne - gone
Hinske - most likely gone or cheaper
Javier Lopez - gone
Timlin - most likely gone

This adds up and Mike Lowell will cost a few extra $$$ to resign + a few free agents, but many of these spots are going to be filled with cheaper replacements, Ex. Coco and Ellsbury.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 4:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Wouldn't be so quick on the trigger there with Timlin (reasonable price, I say yes.) or Lopez (semi-irrational like for the guy in the organization), and I'd be quicker on Hinske (what can he do that Brandon Moss couldn't do with more athleticism?).

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Yeah, I love Timlin. I love his hats.  Guy never washes them.  Maybe he will give us the "home town" deal and stay.

Agree with Moss, plus giving him time will help us in the future.

There are plenty of left hand relievers available this off season, Javier can go, no problems from me.  Unfortunately we released the wrong lefty.  Should of kept J.C. Romero.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 4:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
I'm not entirely sure we need a LH reliever for the regular season (how often do we have to face REALLY tough lefties?). If we used Lopez for what he's good at (namely, generally getting RHHs to groundout), I wouldn't be upset at him being around next season.

And I'm guessing Timlin would give us the discount.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 4:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Lopez stinks against lefties anyway. If we really need a lefty specialist, how about someone who occasionally gets lefties out?

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
I'm not big on the LOOGY position in general. Most have severe control issues (Lopez, Romero, etc.). I'd prefer them to think outside the box and get a RHRP who has some extended splits where they've been successful against LHHs.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Re: Let me be the first to give congrats on winnin
Get used to it mate. FEAR THE CHOWDA EMPIRE.

Would you like a biscuit with your chowder?

by sdkramer.otm on Oct 28, 2007 8:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

We are the champions...
Wow, you went from being the team of """destiny""" to being bitter. I bet you won't be so sour this off-season when our big payroll takes Mr. Helton's contract off your hands huh?
O! wait,maybe ya will. Sorry! BTW...If you want to talk about what something can get you, you need to look back and se etha Holliday NEVER touched the plate to let you in the playoffs in the first place. See what bad umpiring can "get you"? These things have a way of working themselves out though it appears huh? go slay a dragon w your AAA team. You gotta spend $$$ to make $$, this whole "you bought a ws ring" thing is old.

by Matzushocka on Oct 28, 2007 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: We are the champions...
sorry, meant to post that under the rox fan's comment.

by Matzushocka on Oct 28, 2007 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: We are the champions...
The Red Sox did not buy a ring, they drafted, traded, developed, and signed our Veterans to a ring.

That is how sports franchises work.  If your baseball team does not spend AT LEAST what an NBA or NFL salary caped league pays its roster, your ownership is not trying to win, they want to make money.

Even the Clippers pay their players $80 million.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pre-Season Red Sox W.S. victory prediction
The Simulator called this W.S. title before the season even began.

vr, Xei

by Xeifrank on Oct 28, 2007 2:07 AM EDT reply actions  

ok so..
its time to ask. Whos your current favorite for the WS MVP? Numbers seem to suggest pedroia, but all it would take is a big preformance from manny ortiz or lowell (or others) for the tables to be quickly turned.

by spinz on Oct 28, 2007 2:22 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: ok so..
If we go to a Game 5 and win that game, I could see it being Beckett again.

Otherwise, yeah, I'm thinkin' Pedroia. Unless Tacoby does tomorrow (and maybe beyond?) what he did tonight.

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
I think it's Jacoby already.  He's hitting .417 right now, and "just" going 2-4 tomorrow increases that, and the spark he's provided is incredible.

He's been from near the bottom of the order to the leadoff spot, and he's handled those changes like a seasononed veteran.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
yeah jacobys another one where if he has a big game in the clinching game its pretty much his.

by spinz on Oct 28, 2007 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
There's precedent for a shared award -- Curt and Johnson were co-MVPs when Arizona beat the MFY in 2001.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
True here. Then I'll amend. If we go to Game 5 and win then, Beckett/RoY Co-MVPs

End tomorrow with good performances at the top: DP/Tacoby

by Allen Chace on Oct 28, 2007 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
And if Lester pitches a perfect game?

:)

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
OK, but what if Jacoby hits 4 grand slams?

And sells popcorn when he's not at bat?

Huh?  Come on - you'd HAVE to give it to him then!

;^)

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
Nope.

I'm giving the MVP to Brad Hawpe. I think I can make a very good case that no one has helped the Sox to victory more than he.

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
True, but he makes a tougher case because he got that solo base hit in the 9th.... he can't be depended upon to strike out everytime, and that's going to hurt his chances.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
Hey, he can't choke at every key moment! Who do you think he is, the 2004 MFY?

by RSNexile on Oct 28, 2007 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
Becketts definitely possible, but i think the big difference between the alcs situation and here was that beckett really was the only starter who had the indians name consistently and he was really the difference between winning and losing the series. I think becketts more likely in a 7 game series if he just destroys the bats in game 5 and everybody else starts to fail.

by spinz on Oct 28, 2007 2:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

whoops
meant to make this a reply to the beckett comment

by spinz on Oct 28, 2007 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
You guys are adding too many variables.

Personally, I don't think there's going to be a Game 5.

If there is one, then I'll wait to consider what JB does in that one.

BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
Which is kind of a disadvantage (for this award) if the Sox were to sweep.
BC14

by BC14 on Oct 28, 2007 2:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
This is a tough one, I'd have to go with either:

Pedroia
Ellsbury
Beckett
Okajima - I know this is a tough one maybe, but he did only throw one bad pitch.  He sacked up and gave us the inning we needed in game 3.

I agree game 4 will most likely be the clincher for MVP.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 3:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
Regardless, ROY and WS MVP make for some pretty good laurels.  DP has shown his stuff, what with the solo hr in game 1 and his offensive show in game 3.  Well, lets see what they do in game 4, but regardless, this team freaking rocks, and the fact that we really need to debate who to give this award to is impressive.

by redsoxrocko on Oct 28, 2007 4:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: ok so..
I think Mike Lowell should get some consideration as well.  Seriously, has he gotten every clutch RBI hit? Plus his defense is A+ all series.

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 4:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
WS Champs, A no-no, Best pitcher in baseball,best record in baseball,ROY,JACOBY= Damn Ive had fun this season. O yeah and memo to the rest of MLB: Manny,Papi,Drew,Dice K and Lugo didn't have the kind of seasons they are capable of. Scary thought isnt it folks? :)

by Matzushocka on Oct 28, 2007 9:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: GT: World Series Game 3, Part 2
Plus add Buchholz and a healthy/experienced Lester, Ellsbury getting a full season of at bats, whomever we get for Coco and the Sox clearing almost $30 million...can you say repeat?

by SoxAcumen on Oct 28, 2007 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

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