How about a pro-Manny diary!
Some things to keep in mind:
- Before Manny Ramirez came to the Red Sox, we had essentially no power hitting at all. All we had was Nomar, who isn't really a classic power hitter. And that's how it had been since Mo Vaughn left.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/ramirma02.shtml
And yes, those numbers mean something. They measure his contribution to the team over a long period of time. They are more valuable than anecdotes, which seem to be the favored mode of argumentation for the anti-Manny crowd. But there are plenty of anecdotes, too.
Rember the 5-game sweep to the Yankees that killed the season? Manny showed up then.
Game 1: 1/2 1 HR 1 R 1 RBI 2 walks
Game 2: 4/6 1 R 2 RBI (double header)
Game 3: 1/1 1 HR 1 R 3 RBI 3 walks (double header)
Game 4: 2/2 1 RBI 3 walks
Game 5: 0/0 with 2 walks before being lifted
So here's the deal. You talk about getting rid of Manny, you do so, but convince me that the player you're bringing in will be able to go 8/11 with 2 HRs and 10 walks in a 5-game series against the Yankees. And, BTW, all those walks to Manny? If Manny's gone, they're all going Ortiz's way.
So, please, spare all the "Manny cannot play through pain" stuff. As has been pointed out many times, Manny has played more games for the Red Sox in the past five years than anybody else. Unless you are either Manny Ramirez or his doctor, you don't know whether he's in pain or not. Shaughnessy in particular made an ass of himself by declaring Manny a faker before the extent of the injury was known. But now it's no longer that he's faking - Shaughnessy and Edes have been forced to concede the point that the injury is real. So they are backing off to "he won't play in pain".
Guys, Manny was there for the games that counted. See above. And he was the best player for the Red Sox while the pitching staff was being tattooed by the Yankees.
What's really going on here is that Manny Ramirez doesn't get along with the press. That's hardly unprecedented in Boston. Manny is simply walking down the path taken by Jim Rice and Ted Williams before him. (And, curiously enough, and with all due respect to Yaz, they are the best three hitters the Red Sox have ever had.)
The Boston media think it's all about them. So when a player shuts them out, the way Manny did, the Shaughnessys and Edes of the world silently seethe and wait to see if they can get revenge somehow. So, when Manny gets a serious injury for the first time in five years, and only the second in his career, we are alternatively told that he's faking or that he should be playing through pain like a tough guy. But what's really going on is something personal.
What the Red Sox really need to do is build a team, not to further the process of taking apart the 2004 champions.
Final thought: do you want to see Manny Ramirez on the Yankees? I don't.
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I couldn't agree more
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 25, 2006 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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I think the media ought to be made to kiss Manny's bat, glove, and apologize.
by SoxDevil on Sep 25, 2006 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Realistic on Sep 25, 2006 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by Tony the pony on Sep 25, 2006 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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by youcantake2004 on Sep 26, 2006 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Manny was part of the 2004 team ...
But, if chemistry matters as much as you say it does, why let Johnny Damon go--or, Pedro, OC, etc.?
by Drugs Delaney on Sep 26, 2006 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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It's hard to reconcile this comment with Manny's World Series MVP. I mean, seriously, how can you make a comment like this with a straight face?
Manny Ramirez has always been a winner and has always produced in the postseason.
Why does Manny ask to be traded every winter? I don't know. Why does the Boston media treat him so poorly? I expect the two things are related to each other. It's like I said before: there's no way the Sox are going to get an equal player in the trade. It's not just that there are so few equal players, it's also that Manny has one of the few enormous contracts out there. After the 2004 season the Sox put him on waivers and there were no takers. Any team could have picked up hiw $20 million/year contract -for free!- and nobody wanted it. I'm guessing that the only way the Sox could trade Manny is if they paid part of their contract themselves, or if they picked up an equally large contract in return. Neither option seems reasonable.
At some point, I think the Sox management has to look at the facts here. Either they take 40 cents/dollar for a trade (as Bill Simmons puts it) or they sit back and realize they have Manny for at least one more season. Given that they'll have him in town, why not step in and try to smooth over the difficulties he has with the media? Sometiems you get the feeling that the FO is involved in sabotaging the reputations of their own players. (That was certainly the case when Mo Vaughn was around.) The FO has a lot of power in this situation, and they seem content to not exercise it.
That's a bit sad.
by RickD on Sep 28, 2006 8:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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The other thing the FO will be wrestling with this year is the very real possibility that even if Manny stays, he'll be a free agent at the end of the year and potentially a NY Yankee. (I suppose if Damon could cut his hair, maybe Manny could?) That's not a good scenario, and they may be looking even harder at a trade to foreclose that possibility.
by BlowUp on Sep 28, 2006 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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I think the media hates Manny for two reasons (neither which are justifiable reason by any means) 1. Their jobs are to get quotes/interviews/etc. and simply put Manny won't talk to then (can't blame him) 2. Every off-season he asks for a trade it's always the same reason, the media, I could see these writers get really defensive ever time them hear this and it's a self-fulfilling process, they look for any reason to write negatively about him (imagen if you were personally responsibly for one of the greatest hitters shipping town, it's like when someone calls you out on something your wrong about, either you realize and admitt your wrong and do the right thing and take the blame/apologize/etc., or you get real defensive and come up with more arguements even if you realize you are wrong....problem is that there are a couple writers like Shaunessy you are constantly the later type)
by Realistic on Sep 28, 2006 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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If Manny moved to the affluent 'burbs I think he'd be substantially happier. The residents would leave him alone.
by SoxDevil on Sep 29, 2006 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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