Zito signs with Giants
Barry Zito and agent Scott Boras finally decided to join the San Francisco Giants. Zito will replace Jason Schmidt as the ace of the Giants.
Zito will earn $126 million over seven years, exactly $18 million a year. There is a club option for an eighth year, barring requirements.
This means that Zito moves to the National League and not into the New York Yankees rotation, which was rumored. I expect Zito's numbers to increase greatly now that he's facing a pitcher every 9th time in the lineup. He's an early candidate for NL Cy Young, in my opinion.
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New York State of Mind
Pitching in the soft hitting NL West (with the exception of playing the Rockies, especially in Coors' Field) I definitely foresee success for Zito. His best asset has been his durability, so the length of the contract doesn't bother me as much as the money. I can't believe that the Giants just commited $18M per year to a pseudo-ace. This offseason just found a way to get worse; the payroll hangover from this spending spree will be killing several teams well before the turn of the decade.
by ejruiz @ Over the Monster on Dec 28, 2006 2:20 PM EST reply actions
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See what our counterparts here think about it.
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I still think that 70 mil over 5 years (14mil per year) is too much, but those talks have apparently stalled for now.
by bmoseley07 on Dec 28, 2006 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
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If Drew's shoulder is as bad as it seems, he ought to be willing to take an incentive laden deal, though I doubt he'd agree to a deal that favors incentives quite so heavily.
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Major League Baseball is making more money than ever before. It's phenomenally successful in that regard. The big clubs are getting richer, and are smarter than ever at searching out other methods of revenue (the Red Sox, for example, can keep all the money from events held at Fenway. NESN is a cash cow). Small market clubs are growing fat because of revenue sharing. You're financially rewarded in this setup whether you're a successful team or not.
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I never feel like Zito has the ace mentality. Take, for example, our good friend Curt Schilling. Against Johan Santana/Roy Halladay, Zito seems perfectly aware that he's overmatched. He doesn't pitch scared, but he doesn't seem to have that 'alpha-dog' mentality. Curt Schilling is overmatched pitching-wise against Santana, but doesn't believe that he is.
As far as the deal itself...I simply repeated it to myself over and over today. Barry Zito got $18M/yr. Barry Zito got $18M/yr. I have a friend who is left-handed, pitches every 4 or 5 days or so(when it's warm out, anyway), and has a pulse. He's a musician. I think he might be in the wrong field.
Kudos to the Giants, because on paper, Cain-Zito-Morris-Lowry-Linecum/Sanchez/Whatever looks better than what they had before. But then again, Meche-Whatever-Whatever-Whatever-Whatever looks better than what the Royals had before. Doesn't mean they're division front-runners or anything. Though in the NL West, that may end up being the case.
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by Randy Booth on Dec 29, 2006 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
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The other thing that I think will make their rotation slightly better than last season has nothing to do with Zito. I think Matt Cain is potentially an absolute beast of a SP. I think Noah Lowry will rebound to at least a small degree. Matt Morris...there's almost nowhere to go but up after his "peformance" last season. Among Hennessey, Sanchez, Linecum maybe, though now I realize that'd be pushing it quite a bit re: development, they should find an average-better than average 5th starter.
by Allen Chace on Dec 29, 2006 11:17 PM EST up reply actions
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by windycitysauxfan44 on Dec 29, 2006 12:23 PM EST reply actions
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by windycitysauxfan44 on Dec 29, 2006 1:54 PM EST reply actions
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But back to the Zito subject; I agree that he was grossly overpaid, but I still project nothing but success for him in 2007.
Last year he was
16-10, 3.83 ERA in 34 appearences, throwing 221.0 IP, with 99 BB and 151 K
This year he will be in a weaker division in a weaker league throwing in a pitcher's park. His run support will suffer slightly (the A's scored 771, while the Giants scored 746), but putting up those numbers in the AL is impressive. He may not have Ace-like poise, but he will put up Ace-like numbers for the Giants.
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Randy, hell no.
You AL fans absolutely over-rate the difference between the AL and NL for hitting. I know you follow an AL East team, the best offensive division in probably all of baseball, but the AL West was a pathetic hitting division and he had a great defense in Oakland, as well as a huge foul territory.
He's going to a worse defense, possibly a worse offense, and a home ballpark with not nearly enough foul territory(new age ballpark with limited foul ground.)
So where exactly is the logic of making an absurd comment like that Randy? Zito was and is over-rated. Even his Cy Young award was a joke, Pedro totally deserved it that year.
Face the facts. His walks are going up. His strikeouts are going down. The NL West can't hit, but even with a pitcher hitting they are almost as good as the AL West, which besides games at Arlington are very poor.
Scouts have been mentioning that even his famed curveball is losing some of it's bite. He's never been hurt, that's right, but neither had Mike Hampton when he got his huge contract.
Even though Zito is staying in another pitcher's park, without the expansive foul territory and the great defense, he's not going to be as good as he was in Oakland.
You can't win a Cy Young or be in contention for the award with an ERA around 4 and around 13-15 wins.
Re: Randy, hell no.
You bring up how he's leaving a pitcher friendly park, but look at his 2006 splits:
| Barry Zito | ||
| HOME | AWAY | |
| IP | 109.0 | 112.0 |
| ERA | 4.71 | 2.97 |
| Wins | 6 | 10 |
| Loss | 7 | 3 |
| HR | 18 | 9 |
| Opp. BA | .275 | .240 |
Looks like he was a MUCH better pitcher away from home last year. Zito isn't as good as a pitcher like Johan Santana or Pedro Martinez, but he is going to the NL and facing unfamiliar hitters. We see it happen often where a pitcher changes leagues and dominates (and vice versa: Josh Beckett, '06). I wouldn't be surprised to see Zito, even behind a bad defense, contend for a Cy Young.
Re: Randy, hell no.
Pull the other leg, it's got bells on it.

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