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Open Thread: Red Sox vs Yankees 3/7/05

The inevitable is here.

Red Sox and the Yankees. Their first game of the new year is tonight at 7, when Sox prospect Abe Alvarez faces off against Chien-Ming Wang. I'm really excited.

Just so we're clear: I'm excited about seeing Alvarez pitch; not necessarily watching the Sox play the Yankees.

The Red Sox are a respectable 3-1 this spring training, while the Yankees are a near-cellar dwelling 0-3.

Talk about whatever you want in the comments section. It's the reason I've got this extremely important, spring training open thread going.

Let the Yankee bashing begin ... NOW.

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Any predictions for the game tonight? For example, Giambi gets booed so loud at batting practice that he can't take the field and play? Ok, that might not happen but there's a chance...
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by Randy Booth on Mar 7, 2005 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

ST Records are meaningless
Much as I prefer to see the Red Sox with a 3-1 record and the CFY going 0-3, I have to say that Spring Training records are meaningless.

These games exist mainly to (A) get the definite roster players into the, uh, swing of things, and (B) test out the handful of players who are vying for the few remaining spots.

As such, the outcome of individual games means little, when the managers are mainly looking to see how individual players are performing, not to win games.

And since the Yanks will have less than half of their key players in the game tonight, this means even less.

That said... Go Sox.

by Hudson on Mar 7, 2005 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Sox/Yanks
But that's the beauty of a Sox/Yanks spring training game: it gets more press and attention than regular season Rays games.

Your point is true, though. I just want to see how Alvarez fairs, because, like I've said before, he's my favorite prospect.

And maybe Hanley will get some PT also.

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by Randy Booth on Mar 7, 2005 7:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Very important opportunity ...
to see how Abe's doing.  Thrilled.

Other than that, I don't care.  I wouldn't care if Alvarez were pitching against the Pirates, honestly: the only way it matters that it's the Yankees tonight is that you KNOW Abe is gonna have to face at least a couple of good hitters.  That's all.  

by Sam @ Over the Monster on Mar 7, 2005 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

Abe
Does the radar gun look off to you Sam? The fastball for Abe was being clocked at 82 and his curveball at 66.

Other than that, Alvarez is missing the plate, but hasn't surrendered any runs yet knock on wood.

Two outs in the 2nd for Abe. Odds are this is his last inning.

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by Randy Booth on Mar 7, 2005 7:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Sam
How do you keep up so well with the Rays and the Sox? Are you in Red Sox country. Trot Nixon is the NC homeboy as he was a NC State football recruit as QB. He actually showed up for football practice while his agent was negotiating his first contract. Good negotiating tactic, maybee Stephen Drew should try that.

by dbloom on Mar 7, 2005 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

david,
two words: no life.

:D

by Sam @ Over the Monster on Mar 8, 2005 8:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Sam
Some would think that is one hell of a life :)
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by Randy Booth on Mar 8, 2005 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

Radar gun ...
I don't think so.  I assume Alvarez was holding back a bit, this being his first start.  I watched Tom Glavine pitch the other day, and he topped out at 83 on the gun in that game.  Obviously, he wasn't pitching at 100%.  I'm thinking that's all it was with Alvarez, too.

Because I took special notice of Juan Cedeno's velocity while he was pitching.  He was consistently in the 91-92 mph range (which, for Cedeno, would also qualify as holding back).  So no, I don't think the gun was off.  I think they were both where they should be, assuming they weren't going all out.

Nice arm, Cedeno, but he worries me a little.  Besides that fastball, he's got NUTHIN.  He got two quick outs, but then put men on 1B & 2B and got ahead of the next batter.  I was waiting for him to sneak his changeup in there, or at least slip in the curveball.  Nope.  He stuck with the fastball, and he got burned for it.  Look, kid, you're gonna hafta throw a lot harder than that if you just wanna throw that fastball all day ...

by Sam @ Over the Monster on Mar 8, 2005 8:07 AM EST reply actions  

Cedeno
I tend to give young guys credit when they appear in spring training. He wasn't great, but he hasn't really faced a lineup like that before.

That may be the reason for the gun. I just didn't he would take THAT much off the fastball.

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by Randy Booth on Mar 8, 2005 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

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